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  1. kidrock8

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    Maybe the worst 4-0 team in history?

    Mich State stinks. They got assraped by Cal a week ago.
     
  2. kidrock8

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    A playoff in college football, would ruin the 15+ week regular season. 3-4 weeks of football bliss still would not be worth making the reg season worthless.

    Essentially, the reg season is a playoff.
     
  3. keeley

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    lol...

    Actually, they're A WHOLE LOT WORSE than ANY OTHER TEAM that EVER STARTED even 2-2!!!1!1
     
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    Because then none of us would care who won or lost on Oct 12, all of the teams could still get back in it. It's essentially elimination games in midseason, when was the last time that happened in any other sport?
     
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    What was the score of the Miami-FSU game two years ago? And why did the loser play for the title, if the regular season is the playoff?

    Also, explain how a team that got destroyed in its last game played for the title, if hte regular season is the playoffs.
     
  6. keeley

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    <img src="http://www.jmike.net/images/ndcover.jpg">
     
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    ND shouldn't have any problems against Open Date this week, but the SI cover jinx stikes full force on Oct. 5: Stanford 31, ND 23
     
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    Believe me Buck, the ONE game that Ty will win on the schedule is against Stanford. TRUST ME ON THIS!!!
     
  9. BobFinn*

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    So keeley, one of your pics made the cover of SI? Very impressive:eek:
     
  10. keeley

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    lol...

    sorry Bob. Wife still hasn't gotten that roll developed :|

    I will take that project over, I suppose.
     
  11. Buck Turgidson

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    Sorry AB, but the only thing God loves more than Notre Dame football is irony...and maybe bunny rabbits.
     
  12. Desert Scar

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    We lose count of the reasons they are so plentiful. Just a few examples, the often get major bowls berths they don't earn on the field, they get media attention their play doesn't deserve, they historically get ranked higher than they deserve, the NCAA treats them with privileged status, players get Hiesmans over better college players simply because they are golden domers (same is true for Wolverines too), when they suck they blame it admissions requirements instead of the fact maybe the best prospects have little interest in them, etc., etc. And that doesn't even count the number of anti-Christs spawned from that team (foremost Joe Montana) and the number of times they have sold their soul to win football games they couldn't possibly have won otherwise (e.g., versus FSU, Texas, Houston).

    :Yeah, ND may lose one or two games this year... what point does that prove? [/QUOTE]

    That they should not be on TV as much as better programs like Miami, FSU, UT and OU.


    Look, ND is a decent team. Top 20 for sure. But they still haven’t (and rarely do) tackled a Southeast or Southwest power. Even if they lose 2-3 games like Manny said they will probably get a BCS bid, and promptly creamed as the Beavers did to them a few years ago. That sure was a fun game and despite being relatively fond of Willingham (who should have been their 1st choice anyway), I will enjoy every minute of a repeat performance.
     
  13. keeley

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    lol

    Fiesta after 1994 season is the only one I can think of, and that's the only one I can think of for 20 years?? Often...

    Blame the media.

    How the hell can you go about proving this? I challenge you to name one instance where they ended up ranked higher than they deserved.

    Like the probation they were put on in 1998?

    I remember a time Tim Brown eked out that Heisman over... get this... Don MacPherson? Over Gordon Lockbaum? Tim Brown was not as good a college player as they were?

    Rex Grossman, Randy Moss, TJ Duckett, and Casey Clausen must not have been prospects.

    You're pretty much tacking "I am just a sad, bitter hater" sign on your own back.

    They're a draw. Deal with it.

    1993: Notre Dame 31, Florida State 28
    1993: Notre Dame 28, Texas A&M 3
    1994: Notre Dame 24, Texas A&M 21
    1995: Notre Dame 55, Texas 27
    1995: Florida State 31, Notre Dame 26
    1996: Notre Dame 27, Texas 24
    1997: Notre Dame 17, Georgia Tech 13
    1997: Notre Dame 24, LSU 6
    1997: LSU 27, Notre Dame 9
    1998: Notre Dame 39, LSU 36
    1998: Georgia Tech 35, Notre Dame 28
    1999: Notre Dame 34, Oklahoma 30
    1999: Tennessee 38, Notre Dame 14
    2000: Notre Dame 24, Texas A&M 10
    2000: Nebraska 27, Notre Dame 24
    2001: Texas A&M 24, Notre Dame 3
    2001: Tennessee 28, Notre Dame 18

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  14. BobFinn*

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    I didn't think Scar's post even deserved a response, but since keeley responded, I will add:

    Joe Montana's legend began being built while he was a collegian at Notre Dame, and one of the foundation blocks was the remarkable victory he directed over Houston in the 1979 Cotton Bowl when he brought the Irish back from a 22-point fourth-quarter deficit.

    http://cbs.sportsline.com/u/page/historian/montana.htm

    12•14•1970
    Texas, 10-0 and enjoying a 30-game winning streak, fumbles nine times in its next game, a 24-11 loss to Notre Dame in the Cotton Bowl.

    12•5•1977
    Earl Campbell and the 11-0 Texas Longhorns lose their next game, the Cotton Bowl, to Notre Dame 38-10.
     
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    Well I was going to defend the Irish, but keeley is obviously defends them like I do the Raiders.
     
  17. keeley

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    alma mater
     
  18. Desert Scar

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    Try Fiesta bowl, either 99 or 00

    Try Lo White. Let's see, Whites rushing totals (over 2000 yards) he had more than doubled Brown's combined receiving and rushing yards (about 900), more than double his # of touchdowns, and he led his team farther (better record, better bowl). Sure , Tim deserved it. (Just as Desmond Howard and Charles Woodson deserved theirs;) )

    Where did they end up going to?

    Gosh, I surely thought I put enough tongue in cheek in there, guess not. If it wasn't clear, I really don't believe Lou Holts sold his soul, he is a great coach, no doubt.

    The Aggies and OU before Stoops don't count. ;)
     
  19. Desert Scar

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    See Bob proves it, some domer sold his soul somewhere;)
     
  20. keeley

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    They were ranked 11th in the BCS. Borderline call, I guess. Whatever, the rest is more fun.

    They wanted into Notre Dame but were not admitted. This refutes your statement. Dodge the issue further, please.

    Funny, that. Ickey Woods led the nation in rushing that year with 1658 yards. Lorenzo was in the 1500s.

    Meanwhile, Tim Brown caught 846 yards receiving alone, 456 on kickoffs, 401 on punts, and whatever else rushing.

    Oh, wait, I just found out you're looking at 1985, when Lo-White had over 2000 yards. I think your beef is with Bo Jackson, the 1985 Heisman winner. ROFL.

    One can't determine tongue-in-cheek comments from mindboggling ignorance when the words are typed by someone who doesn't know their elbow from their *******. Why I'm wasting my time on this, I'll never know.
     

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