Iraqi - Al Queda Link Confirmed?

What was your original post...can't see it anymore.

 

Cool. Does that mean e-mail was down too?

 

First of all, my original point was that if his own people don't step in if he's killing his own citizens, why should we. And I said it is debatable. And yes if Saddam went off killing a specific group because of race or religion, I think its more reason to step in.

 

I don't want to start a new thread about the link between Al Queda and Iraq, so I will use this thread.

Mohammed Atta met with Iraqi intelligence agents in Prague a few months before the World Trade Center attack. There was an effort to make this meeting appear as a hoax which included a false published interview of Czech President Havel.

Czech officials have uncovered another photo of Atta in Prague to suppliment the earlier charge.

Furthermore, please take time to investigate further links at

www.jaynadavis.com

The connection between Al Queda and Iraq is far from "tenuous"- the connection is clear.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/001/539dozfr.asp

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/articles/2395416

 

Thanks to Clinton, the CIA is in shambles.

By the way, I am not surprised that you did not even consider the substance of my post. Do you always ignore information that does not fit into your political bias?

 

By the way, the CIA does not disagree with me now. Atta did meet with Iraqi intelligence, and then 3 months later flew a plane into the WTC. There are new pictures that prove this fact.

Why do I feel that you might be one of those political partisans that aren't affected by facts though?

 

Jayna Davis is a reporter in Oklahoma City who uncovered information that has prompted the families of the Oklahoma City bombing victims to sue the Republic of Iraq. The people closest to the tragedy are not "conspiricy theorists"- they want justice.

By ignoring the substance of her website, you strike me as somebody who does not care about the truth. You are simply looking for information to support your predetermined position.

Also, your professor, if he keeps current with these events, will now tell you that the original Czech report was true. Go ask him please.

 

You would be absoulutely wrong. Nearly everyone on this board could attest to that fact.

 

I gotta agree with Major here. How can someone's personal website be used as a credible, nonbiased source?

 

If you would just read the info I posted, you would see that your professor is wrong. You should email him the info and ask him what he thinks.

I am saying that our intelligence agencies are incompetent, and the Executive branch wanted to put the Oklahoma City tragedy behind us as quickly as possible. Once again, read the information!

 

That is not a logical argument.

 

I retract my previous statement concerning Major's bias. I don't know him, so I shouldn't have reacted emotionally.

 

http://newyorker.com/printable/?fact/030210fa_fact

In interviews with senior officials, the following picture emerged: American intelligence believes that Al Qaeda and Saddam reached a non-aggression agreement in 1993, and that the relationship deepened further in the mid-nineteen-nineties, when an Al Qaeda operative—a native-born Iraqi who goes by the name Abu Abdullah al-Iraqi—was dispatched by bin Laden to ask the Iraqis for help in poison-gas training. Al-Iraqi's mission was successful, and an unknown number of trainers from an Iraqi secret-police organization called Unit 999 were dispatched to camps in Afghanistan to instruct Al Qaeda terrorists. (Training in hijacking techniques was also provided to foreign Islamist radicals inside Iraq, according to two Iraqi defectors quoted in a report in the Times in November of 2001.) Another Al Qaeda operative, the Iraqi-born Mamdouh Salim, who goes by the name Abu Hajer al-Iraqi, also served as a liaison in the mid-nineteen-nineties to Iraqi intelligence. Salim, according to a recent book, "The Age of Sacred Terror," by the former N.S.C. officials Daniel Benjamin and Steven Simon, was bin Laden's chief procurer of weapons of mass destruction, and was involved in the early nineties in chemical-weapons development in Sudan. Salim was arrested in Germany in 1998 and was extradited to the United States. He is awaiting trial in New York on charges related to the 1998 East Africa embassy bombings; he was convicted last April of stabbing a Manhattan prison guard in the eye with a sharpened comb.

Intelligence officials told me that the agency also takes seriously reports that an Iraqi known as Abu Wa'el, whose real name is Saadoun Mahmoud Abdulatif al-Ani, is the liaison of Saddam's intelligence service to a radical Muslim group called Ansar al-Islam, which controls a small enclave in northern Iraq; the group is believed by American and Kurdish intelligence officials to be affiliated with Al Qaeda. I learned of another possible connection early last year, while I was interviewing Al Qaeda operatives in a Kurdish prison in Sulaimaniya. There, a man whom Kurdish intelligence officials identified as a captured Iraqi agent told me that in 1992 he served as a bodyguard to Ayman al-Zawahiri, bin Laden's deputy, when Zawahiri secretly visited Baghdad.

Ansar al-Islam was created on September 1, 2001, when two Kurdish radical groups merged forces. According to Barham Salih, the Prime Minister of the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan, the group seized a chain of villages in the mountainous region outside the city of Halabja, and made a safe haven for Al Qaeda fighters. "Our intelligence information confirmed that the group was declared on September 1st at the behest of bin Laden and Al Qaeda," Prime Minister Salih told me last week, in a telephone conversation from Davos, Switzerland. "It was meant to be an alternative base of operations, since they were apparently anticipating that Afghanistan was going to become a denied area to them."

Salih also said that a month before the September 11th attacks a senior Al Qaeda operative called Abdulrahman al-Shami was dispatched from Afghanistan to the Kurdish mountain town of Biyara, to organize the Ansar al-Islam enclave. Shami was killed in November, 2001, in a battle with the pro-American forces of the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan.

The Ansar al-Islam enclave, according to Salih and American intelligence officials, soon became the base of operations of an Al Qaeda subgroup called Jund al-Shams, or Soldiers of the Levant, which operates mainly in Jordan and Syria. Jund al-Shams is controlled by a man named Mussa'ab al-Zarqawi, a Jordanian of Palestinian extraction. Zarqawi is believed by European intelligence agencies to be Al Qaeda's main specialist in chemical and biological terrorism. Zarqawi is also believed to be behind the assassination, on October 28th, of an American A.I.D. official in Jordan, and also two unsuccessful assassination attempts: last February 20th, Ali Bourjaq, a Jordanian secret-police official, escaped injury when a bomb detonated near his home; and on April 2nd gunmen opened fire on Prime Minister Salih's home in Sulaimaniya. Salih was unhurt, but five of his bodyguards were killed; two bystanders were killed in the Bourjaq assassination attempt.

The Administration believes that Zarqawi made his way to Baghdad after the United States' invasion of Afghanistan, when he was wounded. According to American sources, Zarqawi was treated in a Baghdad hospital but disappeared from Baghdad shortly after the Jordanian government asked Iraq to extradite him. American intelligence officials believe that Zarqawi was also among an unknown number of Al Qaeda terrorists who have sought refuge in the Ansar al-Islam over the past seventeen months.

 

I didn't want to start a new thread, but I just came across a rather interesting picture of Saddam Hussein visiting a French nuclear facility in 1975:



At the far right: Jacques Chirac