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[IRAQ] US Forces with an example of "Collateral Damage"

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by REEKO_HTOWN, Apr 5, 2010.

  1. nickb492

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    I understand what you are trying to say but from the video you cannot tell who the men in the vehicle are. They could be combatants, but they could also be regular people looking to help. If you saw shooting while driving and see a person in distress would you not try to help? It's a judgment call but the fact that if there is a shred of doubt, then you should send ground troops to figure that out. That's what they're there for.
     
  2. vlaurelio

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counter-insurgency
     
  3. Oski2005

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    Why would civilians trying to help other people be rolling around in a clearly marked ambulance?
     
  4. Ottomaton

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    If you want to debate COIN, we can. If your source for information is Wikipedia, however, you might consider doing a little more reading. Here is a pretty good couple of lists with a bunch of books that will get you up to speed.

    What that is referring to specifically, in the US experience, are the little villages in Vietnam where Viet Cong would go to to get meals and where they would hide weapons caches. It does not refer to people who rush out on battlefields to drag away combatants.
     
  5. Kojirou

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    Given that the strength of the insurgents is that they can masquerade as civillians, how the heck could you ever kill an insurgent then? Do you have to wait for them to start firing on you?
     
  6. vlaurelio

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    so you don't believe in this statement:

    "a supporter of an insurgency who is a non-combatant"
     
  7. Ottomaton

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    Imagine the police and a bank robber got into a shootout, and you saw the police shoot the bank robber. Would your first instinct be to run, grab the bank robber before the police got there and run him somewhere? Do you think the police would assume that you were a random Good Samaritan bystander, or do you think they might assume that you were working with the bank robber if you did that?
     
  8. vlaurelio

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    they would have to be armed at the very least correct?
     
  9. vlaurelio

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    will there be an investigation afterwards?
     
  10. Ottomaton

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    I screwed up the link to the list. Here it is.

    I almost don't know where to be begin. Debating based on some specific phrase you found on Wikipedia is beyond absurd. It's like reading the Wikipedia entry on "surgery" and thinking you can tell Dr DeBakey how to do a heart transplant. Again, I don't even know how to begin to make you understand the foolishness.
     
  11. vlaurelio

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    its a yes or no.. if you don't believe it thats fine with me..
     
  12. Ottomaton

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    You are a buffoon.
     
  13. vlaurelio

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    thanks for resorting to name calling
     
  14. MiddleMan

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    Kill them first, let them die for their country.
     
  15. MiddleMan

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    Still a supporter of the enemy and should be dealt with as the same fate as the enemy.
     
  16. MiddleMan

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    They will assume that you are with the bank robber.
     
  17. MiddleMan

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    Split second decision, I rather see the cop in court than a casket.
     
  18. Ottomaton

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    Tell, me. Have you stopped providing oral sex to five year old boys??? Yes or no answer only!!!

    Tell me!!! Yes or no???

    :rolleyes:

    And I'm the one lowering the level of debate?
     
  19. nickb492

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    That is a disturbing mindset.
     
  20. vlaurelio

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    I will not stoop to your level and stick to the thread topic on hand

    are all supporters of insurgents considered enemy combatants which should be killed on sight yes or no?
     

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