I was referring to the 2004 election year GOP ***-bashing exercise, I believe you're referring to the 2k6 incarnation.
Did you guys read the article? The only 'source' are some rejectionist Iranian ex-patriates living in Canada...Iran has denied this and it's kind of irresponsible for the US, Canadian, and Australian governments to criticize Iran when they have no official confirmation and this is the only source that they have. This all seems like propaganda. No I don't agree with this and for all I know this is a rumor started by some Iranian-Canadian agitators...we don't even know if this 'law' exists...I also don't agree with the terrorism being committed by Iranian ethnic and religious minorities and US sponsored terrorism being committed against Iran by groups like the MKO either...On plenty of occassions I've said that Iran has plenty of problems just like any other nation-state, but there are positives as well. Since the security of their state is threatened, the Iranian government would be well within its rights under its constitution in taking emergency powers whenever it wants to ensure the security of the state too.
If you stretch that logic far enough then you could justify the Bush Doctrine or almost anything... How are Jewish Iranians a threat to national security? The internment of Japanese Americans is despicable and it could most certainly happen in the future. Despite the rulings of the Supreme Court, I don't believe it's the right of the American government to do so.
I think I have a hard time reading you. There are things that a country could do that would be 'within the law' but deplorable. That's especially the case when you get to write the laws. That's why I cite Americans decrying administration activity here in America. When specifically asked what you think about branding Religious minorities in Iran, you say the article should be ignored altogether. Then you defend in general Iran's right to protect itself. This insinuates that you think that the hypothetical act of marking Jews and Christians would actually help secure the country. Would you think the same if America branded all muslims here?
The US is not surrounded by hostile military forces that are threatening it with nuclear weapons, the US has not been the victims of WMD, the US has not been the victims of massive amounts of terrorism within its territory that goes on still today, but Iran has to deal with all of this....states clamp down on their citizens when their national security is threatened...your problem isn't with me or what I'm saying, it's with the nature of the nation-state and the international political system that revolves around it.
Iranians criticize their government all the time as well. I said I didn't agree with it....refer to my post above and my earliers posts as well and you will see what I said.
You say you don't agree with it (if it's true), but then you go on to defend Iran if it did happen. I totally agree with where Nolen is coming from. He wants to know if you think Iran is wrong to do this, if it's true, and what you think about it. You say you don't agree with it, and I believe you, but you can't help having what I would describe as a "rant," defending Iran if she did do it. Does not compute, Creepy, and if Iran did do this, it has nothing to do with any "threats," real or imagined, from the West, or her neighbors. And if you imagine yourself as having liberal ideals, you don't leave them at the curb when it's inconvenient. I'm trying to be fair here, believe it or not. You are being very confusing, or dishonest, in my opinion. Keep D&D Civil.
Creepy, That's why I said "If true", I know it might not be true and that the source of the article/rumor is an anti-Iranian regime element in Canada. I prefaced it with "If true", I have no way of knowing whether it's or not.
I'm not justifying or defending anything...I'm just trying to explain why states do what they do, whether people consider it 'right' or 'wrong' is not what I'm focusing on...States clamp down when their security is threatened and use that period to do things that they otherwise wouldn't be able to do under normal circumstances...I don't think any rational person would argue that Iran's security isn't in jeopardy...So any state in Iran's position would take strong measures to ensure the security of the state...Even though I might disagree with the measures taken, I wouldn't expect anything less from any state...Again, the problem isn't with me or what I'm saying, it's with the nature of the nation-state and the international political system that revolves around it. Israel punishes all Palestinians for the actions of a few, Iran doesn't do that even though its ethnic and religious minorities have and are utilizing violence and terrorism against the state...I don't even know if this 'law' exists, but I really can't see this happening in Iran and I would criticize the Iranian government if this did ever happen...However, I understand that Iran has to maintain its national security as well and would expect stringent measures to be put in place by any state that is under as much pressure as Iran currently is, even though we might disagree with some of them.
Iran dress code law does not target minorities Canada's National Post on Friday reported the draft bill approved last week would force Jews, Christians and other religious minorities such as Zoroastrians to wear colour-coded clothes to distinguish them from Muslims. A copy of the bill obtained by Reuters contained no such references. Reuters correspondents who followed the dress code session in parliament as it was broadcast on state radio heard no discussion of proscriptions for religious minorities. Senior parliamentarian Mohsen Yahyavi described the Canadian report as "completely false". "The bill aims to support those designers that produce clothes that are more compatible with Islam, but there will be no ban on the wearing of other designs," he told Reuters. Iran's Jewish MP Moris Motamed also agreed the bill made no attempt to force special garments on the minorities. "There is no single word in the bill about a special design or colour for the religious minority groups," he said. "Our enemies seek to create tension among the religious minorities with such news and to exploit the situation to their benefit," he added. http://in.today.reuters.com/news/ne...R_RTRJONC_0_India-250326-1.xml&archived=False
"The bill aims to support those designers that produce clothes that are more compatible with Islam..." ________ I would hate to see what happens to someone not wearing the Islamic uniform.
You have made this accusation quite a few times. I have yet to see you provide a single piece of evidence backing it up. The only link you have ever made between the MKO and the US was that the MKO prisoners of the US are now being treated according to the Geneva Conventions. Please either back this up or stop using it in your arguments. Thanks in advance.
The rest of the quote says "but there will be no ban on the wearing of other designs"...so you have nothing to be concerned about There's been plenty of evidence presented...mc mark has posted quite a few articles from rawstory that discuss this issue in detail...but then again, you're probably one of those people that refuses to believe that the US sponsored terrorism against the democratically elected government of Nicaragua in the 1980s by supporting the Contras and you probably also don't believe that the US is harboring terrorists in Florida who have committed terrorism against Cuba.
Actually, I have no problem believing either of those things. I also have no problem believing that the US could or would support terrorism against Iran. I just have not seen any evidence presented to support it. Could you post a link to some of this evidence, or even just to the thread where mc mark posted the evidence.
i would create a separate thread for this, but since my privileges are limited, i think i'd post it to the closest related thread at the moment. Iran to hang teenage girl attacked by rapists www.iranfocus.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=5183 what's wrong with iran??? this just enrages me...
What's the point of this article? How is it relevant or useful? If we were to post an article about every miscarriage of justice in the US or another country, we would be some very busy people. It's obvious that there is some sort of agenda here on this board against Iran. 6 million people have died in the Congo (DRC) and people are focusing on this one incident and nonexistent measures against minorities in Iranian dress codes. Btw, Iranfocus is an extremely biased website.
