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Iran president: Israel a threat to Islamic nations

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Ubiquitin, Apr 14, 2006.

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  1. texanskan

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    We are the only superpower in the world, We put billions of dollars out there in aid and in fighting terror to say we are a threat is rediculous. If any nation out there developing or not just minds it's own buisness and does not allow terrorist to opperate freely inside it's boarders than the US does not bother them period.
     
  2. tinman

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    No,

    but I heard they developed one of those things to put your legs up when you are slouching in your chair watching the TV.
     
  3. tigermission1

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    Well, I guess 'stable' is somewhat subjective, but certainly it had a lot more stability before the European imperial powers starting carving out 'spheres of influence' in the region and beyond.

    If there's one rule in world politics it's that nothing lasts forever, everything changes. Indeed, it's the nature of human existence.
     
  4. tinman

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    you're talking my language now.
    we have to think high than countries, cultures, policies. we need to think as a species.
     
  5. Ubiquitin

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    Right, but under the the Ottomans it was a Caliphate like the Holy Roman Empire. To me, imperialism is controling something outside of one's natural sphere of influence.
     
  6. rezdawg

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    Maybe we should lead by example then...and mind our own business. Iraq wasnt our problem and Iran is Israel's problem.
     
  7. tinman

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  8. Ubiquitin

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    You are truly a gem in the D&D...
    I am serious too ;)
     
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    I think the Arabs who were part of the Arab Revolt would a.) take issue with you saying that they were in the sphere of the Turks influence and b.) take issue (I may be reading into what you are saying) with the idea that they were less exploited or degraded by the Turks.

    They were very much treated as crap by the Ottomans (despite what some people with agendas would have you believe) - similarly to the way the British treated the Irish at the time.

    I do appreciate the distinction that you are trying to make however.
     
  10. Ubiquitin

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    We were speaking in terms of stabiility also. The governing style of the Ottomans is not too relevant.
     
  11. Cohen

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    Stop all that. There's some creative, revisionist history and you're ruining it.
     
  12. CreepyFloyd

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    iran just wants what any state wants: security
     
  13. CreepyFloyd

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    well put
     
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    no region has seen as much foreign intervention as the middle east and north africa in modern history....invasions by foreign armies, occupations, and the installation of tyrants by the west, and support for illegitimate regimes has led to destabilization

    now if iran decided to pursue a nuclear weapon it would actually bring about a balance of power, as somebody mentioned earlier, because israel is the only one with nukes and they've threatened to use them before like when they were losing the 1973 arab-israeli war initially.....if iran develops nukes it would be in the best interest of long term stability in the region, because of mutually assured destruction. also, the us needs to withdraw its military from the region as well if its interested in genuine stability as well.
     
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    God i miss khatami. he was a class above all this jackasses. much more tolerent about everything. in school the religious fantaics used to make us say salavat, but everyone used to make fun of it. we used to say allhoma salla alla mohamad, kiram ta tah to kosse amat. :p
     
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    Hahaha, care to translate for those that dont understand? :D
     
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    No need to, let people use their imagination...

    Yes, and guess what Khatami's moderation got him? Nothing! He was completely shunned by the West; enter Ahmedenjani... (Reminds me of a somewhat similar situation in Palestine, when Abbas' brief and unproductive tenure was marred by his inability to get anything substantial back from the U.S. and the Israelis to support him and give him some legitimacy with his people; enter Hamas).
     
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    The west and isreal in particular allways needs an enemy to rally the masses behind them. the same thing applies to the current fanatics in iran. a moderate like khatami was bad news for the war moungaring bush. ahmadinejad is a god send ffor isreal and the west.
     
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    I dont wanna get banned. i mean we had about 200 kids everymorning saying this. should have seen the look on the mollah who was the principle. he could'nt do anything about it. oh the good ol days.
     
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    Bassiji force are the regimes instrument of terror to keep the masses quirt. like the nazis SS or gheshtapo.for exampel they cut off the tip of the tounge the bus drivers union.. some of the bus drivers had'nt been paid for over year. this is very common thing in iran. alot of the workers dont get paid. the economy is in shambels. the mollahs use there bassiji muscle to keep the population in check.

    http://www.irandefence.net/showthread.php?t=2531
     

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