Iran: No deal reached, only framework; Iran can still enrich

Umm...asking for them to acknowledge your own country's right to exist is "outrageous"? And yes, of course it has to do with their nuclear program. I can follow geeimsobored's argument, but neither is the demand outrageous nor is it unrelated.

I always recognize the validity of a coherent argument. There just aren't very many, if they don't agree with me .

 

Israel is not a party to the negotiations. They have nothing whatsoever to do with this agreement. There was a seven country delegation who were responsible for hashing out this agreement and, in such a negotiation, an outside suggestion from Israel, who isn't part of the negotiations, is definitely outrageous.

I've seen you overlook very rational arguments simply because earlier in the discussion, you interpreted something as anti-semetic even though I didn't see it as evidence of hate of any kind.

 

You are the blind leading the blind.

 

Dude, how dense are you?

You quote an article about how an UNMODIFIED reactor produces weapons grade plutonium.

The deal that was worked out would MODIFY the reactor so it could not do that.

You just are showing you don't know what you are talking about. Stop please. Just stop. Admit you were wrong. Resorting to calling someone names shows you don't have anything to stand on. If you did you'd use logic and some kind of intelligent debate.

When your only defender is ATW, you know you are in trouble.

 

Israel is the country that Iran thretens to annihilate, and is constantly arming her enemies ( Hamas and hizzboula), who attack her with Iranian weapons, and act as Iran proxies.

Don't you think that Iranian fanaticl religiose regime, with a newclear warhead, that dosent won't to recognize Israel, is a threat?

Israel has every right to be a part of it, her citizens are in danger, unlike other contries who are a part of this negotiation.

 

If Israel was a part of it there would be no negotiation in the first place. Do you understand that?

 

What does it say about Iran and the threat about Israel right to exist?

In this conditions Israel has every right to be furious, it's her existence that's in danger.

Do you understand that?

 

Don't worry about Sweet Lou 4 2/New Yorker, he is the village idiot here, and has been for a long time.

 

If Israel truly felt it's existence was threatened, it would bomb the crap out of Iran. Let's be real.

 

Not without the us approval.

And btw Iran is not yet there.

Israel dosent want Iran to be there, and to be able to bomb her, and is trying to deny that option, so she won't need to bomb the crap out of Iran and as you wrote.

 

Our rhetoric on Iran seems nonsensical: Do U.S. leaders actually believe Iran would engage in a first nuclear strike on Israel or the U.S., given that would lead to a quick and devastating retaliation from those well-armed nuclear powers?

Even conservative U.S. foreign policy experts know that’s incredibly unlikely. They’re not worried that we can’t deter a nuclear-armed Iran — they’re worried that a nuclear-armed Iran could deter us. As Thomas Donnelly, a top Iran analyst at the American Enterprise Institute, put it in 2004, “the prospect of a nuclear Iran is a nightmare … because of the constraining effect it threatens to impose upon U.S. strategy for the greater Middle East. … The surest deterrent to American action is a functioning nuclear arsenal.”

This perspective — that we must prevent other countries from being able to deter us from waging war — is a bedrock belief of the U.S. establishment, and in fact was touted as a major reason to invade Iraq.

https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/04/07/10-things-didnt-know-weve-done-iran/

 

The two sides are to far apart to be talking. This is a once in a lifetime deal. A deal that includes Israel would be a once in a generation. It would not have happen and that's why they werent and aren't part of it, but they are indirectly involved

 

So Israel really isn't worried about herself, she's worried about protecting Iran! How caring is Netanyahu! What a saint! He deserves the Nobel Peace Prize.

 

Just stop posting.

 

This aknowledgement clause is so non-sensical it makes my head hurt.

 

You know who else likes to stifle free speech? ISIS.

 

Idiot post of the day, and a reminder why this guy wasn't allowed to post in here for years.

 

Good post but just to follow up on this. I doubt that Russia or the PRC really cares that much if Iran recognizes Israel or not. Their objection would be the timing of it as another condition when the outlines for an agreement are already there.

 

Israel wasn't a party to the negotiations because they would have scuttled them as Netenyahu is trying to do now. They want to bomb Iran and have no interest in diplomatic solutions. For all of these and a myriad more reasons, Israel was not and should not have been a party to the negotiations.

I'm pretty sure a "newclear" (sic) warhead isn't in Iran's immediate future, given this agreement.

 

So, ISIS doesn't want to stifle free speech?