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Iran moves to legalize marriage for girls under 10 years old

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by AroundTheWorld, May 27, 2013.

  1. AroundTheWorld

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    I am advocating that children do not get married at age 9. Apparently you have a problem with that. If you could explain why you are more concerned about my posting than about children getting married and raped at age 9, I would be much obliged.
     
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    Didn't you post this before?..I remember reading it.

    Regardless it is pretty disturbing.
     
  3. AroundTheWorld

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    It was posted by Izzak David. I had forgotten about it having been posted already. My mistake.
     
  4. bucket

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    It goes without saying that children shouldn't be forced into marriage. You're not going to find a poster here who didn't already believe that, so that can't have been your purpose in posting this.

    It's unfortunate that you've posted this offensive drivel rather than answer the straightforward question I asked you. You've made a nearly full-time job of copy-pasting negative articles about Islam and personal insults directed at anyone you disagree with. So all I'm asking is, what is your general view of Islam's place in the world? What exactly are you driving at, overall?
     
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  5. AroundTheWorld

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    Do a search. I have explained my position multiple times.

    Also - with regard to "It goes without saying that children shouldn't be forced into marriage. You're not going to find a poster here who didn't already believe that" - read this:

    LCAhmed is a nice poster who doesn't post disingenuously like people like Mathloom or Hydhypedplaya, but clearly, we are not talking about completely isolated cases here. That post alone shows that even among people who live in the USA, some of the attitudes from that region carried over, including the practice of marrying relatives and approving of marrying children.

    Just because you think it goes without saying that these practices are crazy doesn't mean that this isn't a widespread problem in the Middle East.
     
  6. AroundTheWorld

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    And to expand on my answer to the question why I posted this:

    1) Why not? It is happening and it is a serious issue. Just because some leftists align themselves with Islamists and therefore try to shout down and keep under the rug anything that might portray Islamists in a bad light (like arguing that decapitating a guy with butcher knives while shouting Allahu Akbar is not a terrorist attack) doesn't mean that one should not keep pointing out these atrocities.

    2) As I said, it was in my newsfeed and I consider it a current problem that is worthy of discussion.

    3) Finally, I probably posted it because I am annoyed that someone like Mathloom, who works for a dictatorial and inhumane government comes onto this site and disingenuously posts about being concerned about freedom of speech in Western societies. At the same time, he lies about this being an issue. It is an issue in many Muslim countries. Iran, Saudi Arabia, Yemen. Men from Saudi Arabia actually buy women and underage war orphans and refugees from the Syrian war - now - not 10 months ago.

    http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=9107165532

    It is a much more current problem than you guys think.

    And Mathloom saying that the problem doesn't exist? Hmm. Yeah, well, these women/girls are bought by men from richer countries...like the UAE...
     
  7. Mathloom

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    The Daily Telegraph can be a good source of information. In this case however, they have simply misrepresented the quotes of one sicko to mean that the Iranian government is moving towards this.

    Until you have some indication that the Iranian government will or is likely to accept this psychotic proposal, you have nothing.

    All you have is a crazy guy stating his crazy beliefs and proposing to the council of crazies who are not crazy enough to even consider it.

    All that's going to happen is this proposal will be rejected and it will disappear and you will never talk about it again because by behaving the way you have you have already served your silly purpose and had absolutely no concern for Iranian children to begin with. That's also why you're throwing all sorts of unrelated **** in here to cover yourself like the purchasing Syrian wives issue, for which there is a huge uproar in the Arab world from men, women and most clerics.

    You give a **** about Iranian children about as much as you do about Afghan or Iraqi or Indonesian children. A shield for your typical xenophobic crap.

    Anyways, out of this thread. I'm happy that people are at least alerted about your bull****, enough to do their own google search regarding the difference between (1) a proposal, and (2) the probable direction of the Iranian government.

    Also, I hate the Iranian government, probably more than everyone on this board. Just letting you know this to save you the merry go-round of accusing me of defending the Iranian government when in reality I am just correcting your (and the Daily Telegraph's) either extremely stupid or extremely xenophobic claims.
     
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    Aside from the guy's proposal - do you deny that there is a significant number of underage marriages (and by that, I mean, going down to age 9 or 10) in Iran, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, to name a few? And I am talking about marriages that are consummated, which is basically statutory rape.

    Are you actually denying that this is a problem in these countries?

    The articles posted do not only deal with a legislative proposal. They also deal with actual facts of what has been happening, as reported by NGOs.

    Didn't the guy who must not be drawn have underage wives? Don't some of the people who follow this "practice" nowadays argue that it's ok under Sharia law because of that? Are you denying these facts?
     
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    :grin:

    I asked you a question, you respond angrily with a bunch of loaded questions, and again refuse to account for your own beliefs.

    I'm wondering why you're so hesitant to unambiguously state your position on all these things you post. Do you have a solution for these things? Are you just trying to horrify people into acquiescing to your viewpoint? What's your goal here? What is your position?
     
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  10. AroundTheWorld

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    Why don't you ask Mathloom the same questions about why he started his thread?

    And no, I am not angry, I am in a very good mood because my team just won the Champions League. That doesn't mean I can't still give idiots the smackdown they deserve.

    If you want to know about my position, do a search.
     
  11. KingCheetah

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    SJC, when did you stop beating your girlfriend?
     
  12. AroundTheWorld

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    When she stopped beating me.
     
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    It's more like a mental sickness. Calling it a "job" is almost insulting to every honest working Joe who holds a respectable profession.
     
  14. AroundTheWorld

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    Well, I don't know about you guys and your productivity in your job, but if that is your idea of what your output in a full-time job should be, then

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