So dakota I gather you don't have problem with the Iranian President questioning the truthfulness of Holocaust, hmm OK ...
Certainly not ! He is free to speak his mind and others are free to protest about it. Just as I find the state sponsoring cartoons about the Holocaust offensive. The difference is that I am not going to go out and strap a bomb to my body, walk into a Pizzaria and blow myself and other innocent civilians up...all the while shouting "Allah Akbah!" Protest and discourse are great - killing others or inciting the blowing up of civilians - like Iran sponsored Hezzbollah - is wrong, and should be dealt with on the international level. DD
I think we sponsored rebels in South America One person's terrorist is another's Freedom fighter Rocket River "If Crime fighters fight Crime and Fire Fighters fight Fire What do Freedom Fighters Fight?" - George Carlin
I have no problem with people fighting to free their country, but not if that fighting entails blowing up innocent civilians as part of that fight. Those people and the people behind them relinquish the "Freedom fighter" argument and become common criminals and thugs and deserve to be treated as such. DD
Hezbollah could have been a freedom fighting force untill it starting using terror beyond the lebaneese border. in 1994 they bombed the jewish center in Argentina. in 1996 they bombed the Khobar towers in Saudi. there currently active in iran. they are no longer a freedom fighting force. they are a bonafide terrorist group.
because it's human nature to point the finger at someone rather then oneself. The Jews didn't make the Muslims poor. If anyone did, it was the British. If anything, Jews could have been a force of positive change in the Mideast...the creation of Israel could have been a conduit through which money and investment would flow into the middle east. Finger pointing hides real problems.
"Spring-tiiiiiime, for Hit-lerrrrr, and Gerrr-ma-nyyyy.." Of course, no real point here, just couldn't get that song out of my head.
I can't believe everyone can't come to an understanding that both cartoons are equally offensive to the people being attacked. Would it make a difference if Ahmedinejjad did it first, THEN the Danish people did it? It shouldn't. Both are wrong for mocking each other. As a side note, one thing I see as a Muslim in this debate is how little respect there is for religion in here. It IS a HUGE deal what the Danish people did. I wouldn't be hurt to see them executed. Same goes for anyone else who commits such a hanus act.
Can you read? Apparently not. It's not the same, dude. Denmark: A private newspaper publishes some cartoons which offend some Muslims, protected by the freedom of the press. Iran: The government publishes offensive cartoons. You are a freaking moron, extremist and idiot if you want to see someone executed for these harmless cartoons. Just go away and never come back.
I don't think you can compare how offensive something is. Since taking offense to something is purely a matter of a personal nature, how can it be compared? What someone may find offensive another may find funny....
In case you didn't understand it from my post, I did not compare how offensive either cartoon was, but pointed out that one originated from a non-governmental newspaper whereas the other one originated from a government. Either way, saying that one wants someone executed for a cartoon shows that Ehsan is a fundamentalist wacko.
Clearly, on this point iran's point backfired. He demonstrated that whereas the Islamic world responded with violence and death threats, Jewish world didn't pick up a rock.
WTF?????? You would not mind seeing them EXECUTED because they put a silly cartoon of the Islamic founder? See that is just insane, and a major problem with your religion, and there is zero respect for that attitude...NONE !! I respect people and their beliefs if they live peacefully. I do NOT believe that Muhammed was anthing more than an inspirational man who started a religion. I am just flabbergasted, you would like to see some cartoonists executed..... Unbelievable. DD
Religion....PFFFFFFFTTTT. Muslim, Christianity, Juddism....IMHO, all based upon ancient mythos from the Babylonians, Summarians, Romans, Greeks etc..etc..etc.... Religion should be read as guidelines, but any part of it that preaches violence deserves NO respect. DD
It seems you don't have much respect for human life. You're beginning to sound like an Islamic fundamentalist to be honest. Do you live in the states? I hope not...we don't need you starting up some kind of terrorist cell.
He can question it all he wants, but it shows how ignorant and stupid the man is, and how backwards the Mullahs that are running his country are.... Makes them look like a joke to the world community, and it makes it easier to turn the other cheek when Israel bombs their nuclear sites. DD
The main problem you guys have is association. This is Ahmadinejjad doing this. Not the Iranian Government. Not Islam. Not the Prophet PBUH. This is not Danish Newspaper vs. Islam. This is Danish newspaper vs. Ahmedinejjad. Obviously, because the political system is corrupted, this guy is further from representing his country than YOUR president is from representing his. You have no prophets DaDa, I don't expect you to understand obviously. For you, Muhammad PBUH is just some guy. For me, he represents way more. There is nothing comparable in your life for me to try to explain what he represents. However, I find it interesting that you not only don't believe in religions, but are incapable of understanding other people's beliefs, choices and opinions. You can't even see why I'm mad that the Danish newspaper did what they did. Freedom of speech is one thing, and respect is another. A cartoon about the holocaust, which clearly DID happen, makes the entire practice of creating cartoons about it stupid. While you guys are sitting here and comparing which is worse, it's clear that you don't understand that for me the holocaust cartoons are peanuts compared to the Prophet cartoons, while Jews obviously think the other way around. You cannot sit here and tell me that "it's not the same thing". As for no one raising a rock for the holocaust cartoons. Puh-lease. As if anyone would have the balls to send a death threat to the psychotic president of an Islamic country as opposed to a Danish newspaper. Oh, and no, fortunately I don't live in the US NewYorker. So no worries. You know how us Arabs are genetically prone to blowing people up. lol
Ehsan, I understand that you think a cartoon depicting Mohammed is offensive, I get that. However, do you understand the difference between the cartoons being part of FREE PRESS versus the ones in Iran being state sponsored? If it is offensive to you, great, be vocal about it, let the world know. That is freedom of speech. However, a cartoon about an alleged prophet is not worth the riots in the streets and the human death that resulted from it. That sort of dogmatic approach to your religion makes it even harder to think that there will be a solution to this madness, and that Islamists are actually free thinkers, who are capable of seeing their religion as one of many. DD
Why is it that Muslims reacted violently to these cartoons but the Iranians ones were not? Don't you think it says something about the differences between the west and islamic world? I think it does.
