You're not reading are you? The government does not represent the country in Iran. I know you know this from your endless rants about how corrupt the political system in Iran is. The government does not even represent most Muslims. A bunch of people are up there, doing whatever they like, acting however they like, and as a Muslim, Persian and Arab, I am taking the tag you're putting on me and throwing it at your face. No death resulted from the Danish cartoons. Please provide some proof is you think anyone did. I'm intolerant of people who can't respect another person's beliefs. I'm not asking anyone to go to Mosque with me. Is it really that much to ask that you don't the greatest man in every muslim's life? Freedom of speech is great. But in case you can't understand this, Islam preaches respect for others' beliefs and values as well. Does freedom of speech mean you can run around a church screaming profanities at Jesus? There is a line. We are civilized people. If my country over here in the Middle East provides me with an office facing the ocean from the 40th floor, then I'm sure we've become civilized enough to show respect to each other. Even dogs show respect. That Danish newspaper showed disrespect and a total disregard for the entire religion of Islam and all its members. Now create a list in your head of living things that disrespect you. You will find criminals, terrorists, and some animals will come to mind. You can put the people who made the cartoons about the prophet in that group. You, of all people, don't believe in religion should understand how essential respect is in society. To take disrespect to this extreme should be absolutely appaulling to you. It is unaccepteable. I would prefer that they mocked me, my country, my family, and my bloodline than mocking the Prophet PBUH. Oh, and in case you have some hope that Islam will become tolerant of all religions in all their forms... No, that will never happen. For example, we will never become tolerant of Satanists, and will never be tolerant of religions which find it essential to wipe us off the face of the earth. Sorry if you think we're horrible horrible people for that.
Again, you're not reading my friend. It's quite simple to send death threats to a newspaper in Denmark. It is not the same to send death threats to the president of Iran. As for the differences between the west and Islamic world... Let me clarify what the media has blurred in your mind. Islam is a religion. "The West" is half the world. Iran is a shii'a Muslim country. Islam has two major sects, shii'a and Sunni. Ahmadinejjad, as you have stated in another thread, is placed in his throne unjustly. What am I saying? I'm saying that Iranians are from the sect that constitute less than half of Muslims. Jews and Christians live in Iran. The president, allegedly, is falsely elected. So he falsely represents a country which contains all the major religions, but mainly a sect of Islam which constitutes less than half of all Muslims. So uhhhh.... Forgive me sir. But who the hell are you to say "Muslims" acted? If you want to know why Ahmadinejjad acted the way he did, it's because he tends to do crazy things and frankly there's not much anyone can do about it. He is the president and he owns the media. So what does what happened say about the difference between "The West" and the "Islamic World"? Absolutely nothing. All it says, my friend, is that you're very good at stereotyping.
You certainly are. Someone who wants someone executed for a cartoon is a fundamentalist, intolerant idiot. Also, I am very sure that "Ehsan" is another user name for someone who has been here for a longer time.
I hate to break the news to you - but Muslims across the Islamic landscape reacted in violence to the Danish cartoons. Shi'ite, Sunni....so I'm not sure what you're talking about. But nice try there.
Extremist is the word you are supposed to use r****d. A fundamentalist, who follows the fundamentals of Islam, doesn't kill someone who makes cartoons. However you SJC, are the classic media-****ed person. You take my words out of context. You say it's fundamentalists that are ruinging your world. Then you say "for a cartoon", which further shows how narrow-minded and absolutely incapable you are of understanding the meaning of such a figure in someone's life. If someone makes a cartoon about 9/11 and how funny it was, would any of us be arguing here? No. But it's just a cartoon isn't it? Through years and years of the media filling your brain up you have become completely incapable of understanding what the Prophet means to a muslim. So will I do something irrational and insane if someone say something about Muhammad PBUH? You're damn skippy. You're sitting here and defending a Danish newspaper which has taken your freedom of speech theories and wiped their ass with it. You can wipe your face with that roll of toilet paper as much as you want. But instead, how about you think about your support of someone who has taken your beliefs and virtues and done this with it.
As expected. However, only Ahmedinejjad supporters did that. Otherwise, there was only regular protests. I live in the Middle East. I know this. You, however, don't. So show me. Back up your claims. I will say though that it's GLORIOUS to watch no one twitch a muscle about the holocaust cartoons because they're swallowing their own medicine now. Not to mention the fact that if it was even possible to fight this, it would be done. But I'd like to see someone take on the president of Iran over this.
Oh and in case you guys are wondering, yes, I posted here a long time ago. I don't know who this creepy character is but I guess I wasn't around to know. Obviously, the moderators will have already checked my IP to connect me to him by now, so rest assured SJC, there is more than a few people who disagree with your ideas.
So you forget about the violent protests in Lebannon, Syria, and Afganistan as well? Incredible. I don't care where you live, if you think the violence was isolated only to Iran then you kidding yourself.
If someone made a cartoon about 9/11, I would say that it is perhaps against good taste. But in contrast to you extremist, fundamentalist, islamist nutcase, I would not demand someone be executed for it. The Danish newspaper did nothing wrong. The one that does not understand freedom of speech is you.
I completely disagree... try to make a cartoon in a national newspaper about black people being all being slaves... I guarantee that person who creates such a cartoon would be fired. There would be an outcry. Personally I thought the cartoons were extremely hateful. (Just to make it clear I don’t condone any sort of violent reactions; it’s barbaric). However, many people in here don’t seem to realize what the prophet represents to Muslims. If you call him a terrorist, you are basically making a statement that ALL Muslims are terrorists, that is not something to be taken lightly. Sir Jackie Chiles do you still find it okay to spread this kind of message? Are there no boundaries in society? Should we spreading such hate? Shouldn’t the newspaper have taken some sort of disciplinary action? Unless they supported the point of view!?...anyway i thought the guy should have been fined at the least.
FREEDOM OF THE PRESS. Maybe he would be fired...but not executed, as one of the extremist posters here demanded. They were harmless. That's not what the cartoons did. The ones spreading hate were those who were making a big deal out of these harmless cartoons. It was outrage stirred by Muslim fundamentalists. No. Fined? For what?
As a bystander of this thread, I think I should help you to get the facts straight. description of the cartoon: Muhammad with a bomb in his turban, with a lit fuse and the Islamic creed (shahadah) written on the bomb. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Descriptions_of_the_Jyllands-Posten_Muhammad_cartoons
So what. I could re-post the cartoons here. Just because there is a cartoon of a bearded man with a bomb in his turban doesn't mean it says all Muslims are terrorists. Cartoons do exaggerate. And as long as Muslims think that rioting against foreign embassies because of a stupid cartoon is more important than fighting against those who are guilty of creating that perception of Muslims around the world, I think there is enough truth in that cartoon.
They both showed poor taste, the only difference is in the reaction of the people. A lot of the Muslim world protested and people died, the Israelis.....well, they ignored it. DD
You are denying that "beared man" is indeed intended to be Muhammad? It's one thing to claim free speech. It's another to deny the facts. Given the muslin teaching, it does seem to cast all muslins in very bad light. I mean, yeah, you can live your "so what", it's not your faith. But that certainly won't help us solve any issues.
We are not talking about some extremist poster in this thread. I'm glad you agree that he ‘may’ be fired...imagine the New York Post making racist cartoons about black people…you still think he ‘MAY’ be fired? Please, the guy will lose his job the minute he submits it…there are some things that just can’t be printed. You’d have to be a follower of the religion to understand if it’s insulting or not. Enlighten me of what it meant. Just because many Muslims ignored it and didn’t use barbaric violence does not mean that the cartoons were not insulting…what ignorance. LOL, I think you’d give the guy a raise if you were the cartoonists’ manager.
