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Iphone on Verizon: Event 1/11/11

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Mr.Scarface, Jan 7, 2011.

  1. ItsMyFault

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    This is exactly why we won't see an LTE AT&T iPhone coming up in June. I could see Verizon getting the LTE one in June, but it would really make no sense for Apple to create one that's LTE for AT&T. I would expect HSPA+.
     
  2. Scionxa

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    Yup, CDMA does a good job of handling this.

    To explain further how CDMA and GSM works for those who aren't familiar here is a good link

    http://gizmodo.com/5637136/giz-explains-gsm-vs-cdma
     
  3. Xerobull

    Xerobull ...and I'm all out of bubblegum

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    I laughed. Unfortunately, I need to spread some rep around.
     
  4. what

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    Nobody really has that many phones for it, but lte is a fantasy right now. One of the reasons that att won so many of the major manufactures phones is in part due to the fact that att committed to the faster hspa+, while verizon and t-mobile were running their old networks for all they were worth. Now, verizon and t-mobile are touting 4g, it is laughable to me. It is a marketing ploy that att isn't getting into.

    Att has the best phones for a reason.
     
  5. OmegaSupreme

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    apple sucker punches hp with a release date one day after hp's mega webos event to try to push webos back into being relevant. no worries. calendar still marked for feb 9th... not 10th.
     
  6. Scionxa

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    Besides the newest phones AT&T is planning to release.

    Could you list these "best phones" for me?
    Only thing decent to me is the Captivate, Iphone, and streak.
     
  7. Qball

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    Verizon stock down for past few days. Apple stock shot up since last week. Event is good news for apple, bad for verizon?
     
  8. JeopardE

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    I think you're not comprehending what I wrote properly. I said that the capacity problems AT&T had were due to fundamental limitations of its 3G network, and that that will change as they transition to LTE.

    And your statement is incorrect as well -- the fact that AT&T's existing network is GSM does not imply that they are somehow further along with LTE deployment than Verizon. That's not how it works. The tower chipsets and software that are used for LTE are all new and are not the same ones used in previous generation GSM, and Verizon started LTE development ahead of AT&T. Heck, it's even possible for Sprint to convert their WiMAX towers to LTE in the future with firmware updates should they eventually choose (or be forced) to do so. Both AT&T and Verizon are expected to complete nationwide LTE deployment by the end of 2013, even though Verizon's 3G tower network is much more extensive.

    Why do you think AT&T is talking about being "committed to both HSPA+ and LTE technologies"? If they could deploy LTE faster than Verizon, why would they be wasting capital on inferior HSPA+ technology? They simply realized that they couldn't afford to be left behind in the 4G race at this point, so they decided to go the T-Mobile route and market 3G-plus as 4G, just as a stopgap until they can get their LTE act together.
     
  9. BleedRocketsRed

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    Welllll, you are forgetting WP7 phones (not my thing but alot of people seem to like it) but that is besides the point.

    I do agree with you 100% tho, AT&T's lineup is very lackluster.

    AT&T is now forced to carry a strong lineup of smartphones meaning I don't have to pay $400-$500 for an unlocked device if I want a good smartphone (which is why they announced those 3 devices at CES, waiting for LTE to deploy before purchasing my next phone).
     
  10. Scionxa

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    Exactly, AT&T is hating this morning

    http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/11/atandt-we-are-much-bigger-than-iphone-exclusivity/

    AT&T: 'We are much bigger than' iPhone exclusivity
     
  11. what

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    The blackberry torch, iphone, lg quantum and samsung focus. Verizon wish they had att lineup of phones and so does every other carrier.
     
  12. Lil Pun

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    So it is finally official, Verizon will have the iPhone, correct?
     
  13. RocketsPimp

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    Ignorance is bliss.
     
  14. what

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    Verizon won't be faster than att. They will advertise that they have it. As far as fundamental limitations are concerned, I think you are confused. Att has been the fastest network for a while now and every independent study supported that, so when 4g fails due to lack of towers what do you think the kinds of speeds you are going to get with sprint and verizon, so for you to now say that fundamental limitations means that att will forever be in catchup mode is completely false and you know it.
     
  15. Harrisment

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    Yes..
     
  16. BleedRocketsRed

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    Forgot about the Torch (another phone I don't care too much for). I guess as an AT&T user, I wish they had the Android lineups of Verizon or Sprint or T-Mobile.
     
  17. JeopardE

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    Hold up. Did you just invoke the BlackBerry Torch? LOL.

    One of my very good friends has a Torch. She tells me about the countless times she has wanted to fling it against a nearby wall out of sheer spite.

    Look, I'm not going to be extreme and say that AT&T has a terrible phone lineup outside of the iPhone 4. But make no mistake, Verizon's smartphone selection is head and shoulders above everyone else's at this point. And trust me, I'm no Verizon fanboy -- I think that Verizon is a giant ripoff of a corporation, and I would never allow myself to be bound by their blood-sucking contracts. Huge monthly bills, no early upgrades, monstrous ETFs? No thanks. Heck, they even decided to cut their return period from 30 days to 14 since they can (we have all the cool phones and technology now, customers are at our mercy!). I'd sooner go to AT&T, but at least I have my $56 Sprint monthly bill to give me comfort.
     
  18. JeopardE

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    What are you reading, man? I never said Verizon's LTE will be faster than AT&Ts. Coverage and speed are two completely different things. Yes, HSPA is measurably faster than EvDO RevA. What's new? And I never said AT&T will forever be in catchup mode either. I said they are in catchup mode NOW.

    OK, let's talk about speed. Do you have any idea when either network (Verizon or AT&T) will actually begin to deploy LTE Advanced (which is true 4G, unlike the pre-4G stuff that's being marketed now)? The technology landscape is constantly changing. Don't get your panties all up in a bunch now because your favorite company is currently behind another tech-wise. I'm neither a fan of Verizon or AT&T. I love Sprint and I wish I could get all these cool phones on Sprint. But Sprint is very much behind the 8-ball now because their first-to-market "4G" advantage is effectively gone, and their WiMAX is never going to measure up to LTE coverage wise because of their much higher frequency band. Sucks for me.
     
  19. OmegaSupreme

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    yeah... I saw the thing about vzw's upgrade and return policy changes today. damn shame.
     
  20. Scionxa

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    Exactly, I wonder if he knows Sprint and Verizon were the first to get 3g. CDMA has ALWAYS been ahead.

    Lets take a look at 3G for 2010

    [​IMG]


    now as for 4g, Verizon is ahead of the game no matter what "what" has to say. Do you seriously think AT&T has the best phone selection, go look at Verizon's phone selection..
     

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