Man, the fact that big gulp embargoes and feckless gun control bills scare you show just how nice conservatives in the US have it.
Pete has received a fair amount of scrutiny for his lack of black support, his relative lack of experience, wine caves, and his "moderate" positions (a public option for healthcare and an investment of only $800 billion in higher education). He's clearly articulated the difference between his policy positions and that of Sanders and Warren. Not sure what else will come out with the additional spotlight, but he's sharp enough to roll with the punches as they come. Pete is not just co-opting the moderate speak of Biden or the previous generation. He is redefining the way that Democrats sell their policies. By framing progressive policies with conservative values of liberty and freedom, Pete makes them palatable across the aisle without compromising on his positions. He's pointing out the hypocrisy of the religious right, who preach about the kindness of Jesus while stripping out all economic, health, and environmental protections for those most in need. His splits in Iowa show that his message resonates across age group, locale (city/suburb/farm), and ideology. The party's gains in 2018 most came from the moderate wing of the party, who focused messaging on securing and expanding Obamacare. Our Revolution, Justice Democrats, and Brand New Congress supported Bernie-esque candidates and did terribly in 2018. But still, props to Bernie for pulling the party so leftward, to the point where a public option and universal child care are seen as moderate positions. I agree that Biden and Klobuchar are very uninspiring candidates. Bloomberg buying election influence is antithetical to the progressive gains the party has made. Pete is beginning to show he can be the Goldilocks candidate, bridging the gap between the progressive and moderate wings of the party.
GARM allows for non locality. It's how @DaDakota beat me in the great bostjan nachbar sig bet of whenever the hell that was
Yeah, the talk about racism running amok kind of coincides with the incidents of racist attacks and actions by politicians and increases in enrollment in racist groups. It's part of why I stopped listening to propagandists trying to act like an increase in talk about the increase in racism is the real problem.
What? Have you not seen what Berny Bros have said about him here in the D&D? In 2018 the most members elected to congress was moderate democrats not progressives. And if you really want to know specifics here they are. https://peteforamerica.com/issues/ Who is exactly telling that everybody has to listen to the moderate?
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/02/04/us/politics/iowa-democratic-caucus-explained.html Everybody involved in the decision to greenlight this app project needs to be dumpstered.
So you think the problem with turnout is not enough white Iowan children in cages? You agree with that dumb ****?
Here's a great writeup by Vox on Pete and his viability - " a liberal perceived as a moderate, with a hardheaded view of American institutions but a hopeful, charismatic approach to campaigning, is exactly what the Democratic Party needs right now." On comparisons to Obama On his healthcare policy On combating polarization in Washington On his advisors
Let alone the stupidity of the details, all she said was all white people are racists. That's lazy, dangerous, and sadly what the analysis of black political commentators has boiled down to since Trump's election. Oh woe is me, the country's racism is back. You should appreciate this Deserves own thread
Genuine question. Do you think the DNC party heads have zero bias as against Bernie? They are perfectly neutral. I need to understand your baseline to understand whether your premise is in the realm of rational or you are just excessively defending the DNC establishment out of a minor cultish type behavior?
It removes the motive for obvious reasons: if you’re projected to do well, why would you want the results to be tainted? He knew he was going to be in contention. Sure, him possibly defeating Bernie was a surprise, but his success in Iowa wasn’t some huge shocker. I think you’re just playing devil’s advocate and don’t actually believe this theory, correct?
There are many indications that the Democratic establishment is not a fan of Bernie. Considering that he is a registered Independent that uses their fundraising and political apparatus, I can understand why. Bernie supporters have the right to not fully trust the DNC, but many of them have taken it to an extreme, peddling conspiracy theories any time Bernie doesn't meet expectations in order to undercut other candidates. We need to come together as a party when a nominee is eventually chosen, but Bernie's surrogates stoke the flames of division and make that unity harder and harder to accomplish.
I was speaking more in the general talk and it isn't that I think white Iowan children need to be in cages but that would make more of a difference than the Latino children in cages.
In terms of core progressive issues, who represents the Democrat liberal voter more? Bloomberg or Bernie? Bernie being an independent before is irellevent. His ideals more match liberalism than any other candidate and liberalism is under the umbrella of the Democrat party last time I checked. Who is more of a Democrat ideologically? Joe Manchin or Bernie Sanders? But I'm sure if Joe Manchin ran for president, the establishment of the DNC wouldn't air complaints about Joe not being a "true Democrat". So the obvious criteria here that irks DNC establishment isn't that Bernie was a former independent. It's that he is the most "buck the status-quo" candidate out there. That usually irks people who benefited from the current status quo and the establishment has been doing really well for themselves with the current status quo.
The DNC is an organization concerned with the advancement of the Democratic Party. Sanders has shown very little interest in supporting down-ballot candidates that don’t align with his progressive vision. He has yet to correct the divisive language of his surrogates against moderate candidates. He has regularly stated he is fighting against the democratic establishment. And yet you are surprised that this organization resists feeling the bern
