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Interesting tibbit during the Clipper's game

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by coffeelover665, Nov 5, 2013.

  1. jbasket

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    Yea, they were cherry-picked facts without any context. My "theory" is really just putting context to the situation. Rockets got crushed, the extreme in a negative way is going to happen.

    No, confidence is not unique to just one player. You really think Lin cares about random strangers' expectations? No, Lin is most likely playing for a job, his family, and for the love of the game. Why is confidence a bigger issue for Lin than anybody else? Because a lot of fans that he doesn't personally know want him to succeed more than other players? Lots of players get injuries, lots of players are "snubbed".

    The Lin to bench movement is just wrong. 6th man is not really "bench player": they are not the same thing. Why can that not register?
    Quite frankly, playing time is earned in practice, and we as fans don't know how players perform in practice.
     
  2. Amel

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    My guess is this came from an LOF..
     
  3. coffeelover665

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    To the people that are discrediting this story, why can't you just entertain that idea? It is so hard to believe that James Harden have a superstar ego? It is so hard to believe that mild-natured Jeremy Lin is getting all of the anger directed at him? It is so hard to believe that coach Mchale have trouble getting his stars to listen to him seeing as how we all see Harden go iso when plays are already drawn? Or is it because your favorite team *might* have problems and you just want to ignore it and sweep it under the rug as heresay? This is the greatest sport-fan boards of all things Houston Rockets and we're just going to discredit this and ignore it without giving it a second thought? Are we 1700s protestants?

    It's true that when a team is getting blown out, people get mad and temperament flairs. It's human nature. The problems are:

    1.) The stars are ignoring the point guard playmaking calls. This you can see from just watching at home. Don't think I have seen that much 1-2 pick and roll, if not any.

    2.) Disregarding the coach. This is big, doesn't seem like Mchale are handling our stars' ego. Almost everytime there is a break (go check!) during the game, McHale were talking to Howard or Harden and they would walk away before he finishes talking. Ask the Spurs if they do that to Pop.

    3.) Lin getting scrutinized out there. It's ok to get angry and vent, but all the anger is directed at Lin from almost everybody. From the coach, to Howard, Harden, everyone yelling at him. And of course Mr. Houston Rocket's PR man of the year isn't going to out and trash his team.

    In the end though, this should be taken as a grain of salt but should still be discussed. Championship teams don't point fingers and play the blame game, they buy into the system, play defense, and win rings.
     
  4. ooooaaaah!

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    Really nice post. I usually only go to a couple of games but I always get good seats and it makes a huge difference. You really get a feel for who the whiners are and who plays D on the other side of the court when the TV hasn't panned over yet. This was the first loss of the season and it was a hard loss in many ways. It was the first time dealing with adversity so I wouldn't worry just yet. We all fight with family and friends when things get tough but no matter what you stick together. Harden is a top 5 player, he knows that and at the end of they day he will do what he feels is best since he gets held responsible. I promise you that Hakeem was way worse. Other players hated him (early on) because dropping the ball done to him was like losing it to a black hole. Harden is so young he still suffers from premature ejaculation, nothing that isn't expected. He needs to realize that his defense sucks harder than the hookers that put up with his nasty beard.
     
  5. sirbaihu

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    The OP contains factual errors.

    Aaron Brooks DID check in for Jeremy Lin at 1:54 of the 4th quarter.

    http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/playbyplay?gameId=400488923&period=4

    So what do you make of this?

     
  6. WaitForIt

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    Here's how to check on the validity of this story: how about a few people go sit behind the Rockets bench next game and report back?
     
  7. WaitForIt

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    Worst. tibbit. ever.
     
  9. hooroo

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    The only time I've seen a ruh roh reaction involving Lin was when he screamed at a surprised looking Amare.
     
  10. sirbaihu

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    http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=246176

    Wow, people at the games see things no one else can see! ;)

    Pics or GTFO. I mean you were at the game "right behind Rockets bench." Cell phone battery died? Missed a great opportunity to takes pics. D'oh!

    Pics or GTFO.

    You don't know a lot of things. All of us don't.

    http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/playbyplay?gameId=400488923&period=4

    Oops! Aaron Brooks did check in for Jeremy Lin at 1:54 of the 4th quarter.
     
  11. Pukimonster

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    No worries bro

    Not that I care but he could've tried to check in more than once

    this one?

    [​IMG]
     
  12. sirbaihu

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    I like the part where the OP is sitting so close to the bench that he can hear Aaron Brooks talking to the coach despite all the ambient noise, but he didn't take a single picture, just wanted to write a report instead.
     
  13. WaitForIt

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    ...coffeelover665 posted it from reddit, so someone else wrote it. No comment on the other stuff though...
     
  14. sirbaihu

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    I want pics, man. The guy must have been sitting 10 feet from the bench.
     
  15. WaitForIt

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    I have to agree. I was glad to get Dwight (even went to the rally), but ever since then I've been saying that it's going to come down to coaching at this point. You have the talent and the energy (at times) for a championship team. A lot of sports writers and fans look at that and rate our championship chances extremely high in the next couple of years.

    And yet, in the first few games I've watched I haven't seen much change, except for the worse, from the end of last season. Our guys are just getting the ball, dribbling it to the other side of the court and practically winging it. There's no order at all.

    I've waffled back and forth on Lin, but I'm definitely in favor of him now (would still trade him if it was worth it, but I'd have to see the scenario first). It's plain to see that he's trying really hard and excels at passing the ball when he gets it. It's a shame to see that his improvement behind the arc in the second half of last year has regressed, but so has just about everyone's. Still, he's trying to run plays and get the ball where it needs to go and be unselfish. I hope he gets his shot back, quickly. Everyone else, too.

    Harden on the other hand has picked right back up with the troubling modus operandi he started showing at the end of last season: wasting the entire clock, then chucking up a three right in front of the defender. That is not a freaking play. I do not care if he shoots 0/10 or 10/10, that is not a play, and it's almost a guaranteed defensive rebound plus potential fast break when he misses because it bounces back so much. Can't stand it. He's still thinking he's going to repeat the one playoff game where every one of those shots was falling. I still didn't like it then, even if we won because of it. It's not reliable basketball.

    Harden is extremely talented, but I also think he's our biggest player problem right now. Nobody has figured out how to use him as a shooting guard, so instead they let him run the offense. He believes too highly in himself, while the others on the team are too timid and too eager to pass instead of shoot. Lin, I think genuinely wants to be a point guard where he passes to all the other positions where they are open and only shoots when he has to. I'm disturbed to hear that he's getting so much crap from everyone on the team.

    In the end, as you've said, it's a coaching thing. The Harden ISOing and chucking should have been stopped last year instead of leaking into this year. We're getting worse looks at threes than last year and yet still not using our brand spanking new center enough to make up for it in the post. Our attempts to score are still chaotic and random, when they should be getting ever more defined and deadly.

    Either the coaches can't keep the players in line or they just are just hoping that by mixing enough talent together, it'll sort itself out once they get the right combination. There are coaches past and present in the league that would figure out how to make this current talented lineup work (and work hard) even without a defined PF. The way things look now, we're going to see a repeat of that Clippers game every time we play teams of their caliber. We may win some of them, but it will be because someone unexpectedly got hot or stepped up, not because we just dominated from the beginning.

    I hate seeing talented individuals combine to something less than the sum or their parts. I hope these are just early season bugs being worked out of the system. We'll see.
     
  17. sirbaihu

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    man you're quite hostile. You attack me for not giving a link, but then you stated that you know it's from reddit and it's useless. What? Why ask for a link if you already know? Looks like you're arguing for the sake of arguing.

    We don't know if it's true. It's one guy giving you an observation of what he saw and another guy saying yeah I saw the same thing. Take it as you will. Don't go around throwing a tantrum, and rather, discuss it.

    The guy that saw this is just a fan going to see a Clipper's game, not a journalist looking for the next juicy story. He just posted what he saw happened. I agree word of mouth is not 100% trustworthy, but your attitude toward this is something else.


    Aaron Brook did finally check in, but anyone watching the game also saw Aaron Brook walking back from the scorer table nearing the end of the 4th. It was actually talked about in the Roxtv chat. (People thought McHale called Brooks back and is making Jeremy play garbage minutes in the chat)

    It was top post on reddit, so I decided to share with the board since it's Rocket related and an interesting topic. I'm sorry if you don't like it.
     
  19. sirbaihu

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    Actually, this is a reddit quotation from facebook, supposedly. I'm questioning why, even now, you think its factual. Yeah, it's really on reddit: that doesn't mean it's true. Reddit quoting facebook. . . .

    No, you're the hostile one, hostile to the other Rockets players. You're still saying this is an eyewitness account, when you have zero grounds to say so. What's a fact is that it casts some players in a negative light. Whether it's a true story is not a fact.
     

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