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Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Wulaw Horn, May 20, 2023.

  1. Buck Turgidson

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    When all is said and done...what's the higher number:

    Altuve career HR or Verlander career Wins?
     
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    Díaz has 63 career plate appearances vs left-handed pitchers.

    That's a very small sample size. His expected stats are much better than his actual.

    VS LHP:

    63 PA

    .169 BA/.274 ×BA

    206 0BP/.307 XOBP

    .254 SLG/.509 XSLG

    203 WOBA/.348 XWOBA

    200 BABIP

    91.3 EV

    22.2 K%

    4.8 BB%
     
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  3. Wulaw Horn

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    That’s a really good one. Altuve HR- I will go with- 320. To 300 wins for JV. Last guy to ever win 300 games in the majors.
    altuve remains playable until he’s 40 years old and averages 25 HR or so for the next 3 years and then 15-20 for the rest of his career. a girl and dream anyway.
     
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  4. Joe Joe

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    Edit: Wrong thread
     
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    With last night's grand slam, Tucker took the lead in win probability added. Astros have three of the best hitters by this measure (this is an offense only counting stat that measures how much a player's bat helped a team win...or other words, the guys that get hits when they matter the most).

    1. Tucker (4.9)
    7. Meatloaf (3.6)
    9. Alvarez (3.3)

    It is even more impressive to me that Chas and Yordan do so well at this stat even with not having that many PAs.
     
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    can you link what site you are using.
     
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    When Altuve hits 160, we win a ring.
    Almost there... :)
     
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    So you're saying we need more buzzers?
     
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    FanGraphs updated their website to make it easier to see how well a player plays at a certain position (i.e., WAR).

    Chas
    At LF
    112 PAs, 0.3 fielding runs (basically most of his range value is diminished by the Crawford boxes), 0.7 WAR...prorates to 3.6 fWAR/600 PAs

    At CF
    157 PAs, 3.2 fielding runs, 1.9 fWAR, prorates to 7.2 fWAR/600 PAs

    Fielding runs is somewhat close to Meyers on a per inning basis in CF. I still think Meyers should be the CF most days Diaz is catching as I think there is a little small sample magic making the difference even bigger than it is for Chas between LF and CF.
     
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    How did you sort this out? I can't figure that out. I want to see what Diaz war would be catching 125+ games, I assume it would be somewhere near 6, but fWar likes him way less than bWar
     
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    I'm probably an idiot but it always low key drove me nuts that he didn't wear batting gloves.
     
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    We only have one player in today's game with a OPS between 700-900 ( Bregman) we have 4 players in the 900's and 4 players below 700.
     
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    I love no batting gloves, but not if gloves work better for him. I actually just stopped wearing my golf glove because I forgot one day and had my best round in a decade.
     
  17. Joe Joe

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    @Wulaw Horn

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    I click standing, then Astros to get the Astros leaderboard. Select as C for positional split to get the stats while catcher (if you select primary position you will get stats at every position for guys that mostly play a certain position). 600 PAs is roughly 150 games.

    so Yainer in 125 games at C would be 1.8 *600/131 *125/150 for 125 games played. So 6.8 fWAR over 125 games.

    Still math to prorate, but much easier than previously having to convert wRC+ to offensive runs while at C, estimating base running runs at C, calculate the defensive runs at C, and then prorate.
     
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    I kept telling people he would be an mvp candidate if he played 125 games as a catcher the way he’s played. I don’t think that’s his true talent level so I’m guessing if all his AB’s came as catcher (I.e. his 120 ops+ probable true self) he’d be a 4 or 5 war player and merely an all star.
     
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    I could be wrong, but I think you may be slightly under-rating his batting if you think 120 OPS+ is his true self. I'd guess he will end up north of 130 wRC+ which should be even better for OPS+ (OPS+ likes slugging more than wRC+). His season stat line has been moving upwards in slow motion due to limited playing time. He's improved a lot from April, and May looks like he just had a ton of bad luck. June through now, he just hasn't been enough PAs to change the season stats to what I think his true self is on average. I don't think we've seen a true blazing hot streak from Yainer yet.
     
  20. Wulaw Horn

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    I kept telling people he would be an mvp candidate if he played 125 games as a catcher the way he’s played. I don’t think that’s his true talent level so I’m guessing if all his AB’s came as catcher (I.e. his 120 ops+ probable true self) he’d be a 4 or 5 war player and merely an all star.
    Maybe. I don't think anyone is higher on Yainer than me- but I might have just met the one person around who is.
    The main point I'm trying to make is that even if you are conservative with what you think his true talent level is, and make it move down toward lowest common denominator of his stats- he's putting up a 5 WAR type season with 125 games caught. Which is amazing for a rookie. And, well, you know what it is for the idea that he's going to catch 50 games or something like that.
     

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