i'm not sure i understand your point...i would argue that witnessing isn't the same for everyone...some serve behind the scenes...some are intellectual and meet the intellectual challenge of discussing Christian apologetics...others are great story-tellers....able to tell their own story regarding Christ. ultimately, it all gets us to the same point, i believe...I don't believe there's any one way to worship God...and I don't believe there's any one way to witness. if a room of non-believing attorneys need me to present evidence to feel more comfortable with the Gospels, I'm more than happy to do it...and have done it before.
don't tell that to Jews for Jesus! i believe Jesus is consistently foretold in the Old Testament. by the way...the Koran does talk about Christians...calls us People of the Book.
This is ignorant. I don't care what your view on Muslims are, but the God of the Christians is Allah. In fact Arab Christians worship Allah, Jesus is the son of Allah, etc. If you wanted to translate the bible into Arabic, to convert people to Christianity, God would be translated to Allah. In French God is translated to Dieu. Just because their is a different word used doesn't mean that it's an idol. The Koran talks about Allah in relation to the same Moses, Abraham etc. Now Christians and Muslims disagree about Jesus, but that doesn't mean that God the Father, who is Allah is all of a sudden an idol. I'm not trying to convert anybody to Christianity or Islam or anything else, but this ignorance can't slide.
Speaking of which, some people never give up: http://www.crescentproject.org/ They used to be here: http://www.arabim.org/
I concur. FACT: By whatever name he's known, Jews, Christians, Muslims all worship the same god, the god of Abraham and Moses. This is stated in the scriptures of each of the religions. Anyone who claims otherwise, is simply ignorant.
if you truly believe that Christ is the only way to the Father...how do you not share that lovingly?? i don't mean "turn or burn", screaming in people's faces, etc...but simply reaching out to people to share your faith.
this completely overlooks the inherent differences in the way God "is" in the Bible and the Koran. ok...today i'm going to write a new book...i'm going to call it a revelation from the one true God of Abraham...and he has a new mission now...now he's dead set on filling the world with capitalism. "what?? you're saying we don't worship the same God??? but we both claim he is the God of Abraham!!!" God is of a completely different character in the Koran as contrasted from the Bible. Believe in what you believe...believe I'm wrong about the nature of God...but don't pretend that God is presented in the Koran the very same way he's presented as Allah in the Koran.
sorry..i would have edited my previous message to you, but that function is turned off...sooo...a new post on the same subject. this was what i found on the crescentproject website... "As you pray for Muslims, seek them out and initiate friendships. You may be surprised at how friendly and hospitable many Muslims are. Build a meaningful relationship, and show respect for the values and beliefs of your new friend. As you get to know each other better, you will have the chance to explain the joy and hope that flows from your relationship with Christ." sounds awful!!!
Look at their beliefs, they want muslims to know Jesus, the son of God. I don't know too much about Jews for Jesus, but it doesn't seem very different from Jews for Jesus. Luckily, I doubt any christians that this would interest would have any sort of an active relationship with any muslims, especially considering that paragraph that you quoted.
i do have relationships with muslims. and, yes..i believe Christ is the way to the Father. again...if you believe Christ is the only way to the Father, is it loving to hold that to yourself??? yes...i want muslims to know Jesus. guilty as charged.
I believe that the main difference is that Jesus is the son of God to Christians. If someone didn't believe that Prince Charles was Queen Elizabeth's son, that doesn't mean that they aren't talking about the same Queen Elizabeth. Or because they have a different take on things again doesn't mean it's not the same God. Look how many different takes people have about George Bush. Yet BammaSlammer, or Trader Jorge, or Big Texxx and I are still talking about the same George Bush. The fact is that God is what God is, but people's understandings of God are different. I believe that Jesus was the son of God, but because I understand that differently than others doesn't mean they are talking about somebody else.
agreed that God is who He is...agreed we can't change that. but the presentation of God as the Hebrew God made known through Jesus is the God I worship and is distinctly different from how Allah is presented in the Koran.
because Jesus referred to the Father. and Jesus was a man. but the pronouns really aren't that important to me.
Sorry, I didn't mean that to be a blanket statement. Just curious, you didn't make it clear: what do you think of Jews for Jesus exactly?
my understanding of Jews for Jesus is that those people are absolutely Jewish...still observe Jewish tradition, as many of Christ's earlier followers did...but they believe that Jesus is the Messiah foretold by their prophets. i think their name, particularly the "for Jesus" part, makes them less than deceptive.
I agree there are different presentations of God. As long as people understand it's the presentation that's different and not the deity. Going back to an example I used before if I wrote a book about Bush's first three years in office, it would be a very different presentation than if Trader Jorge wrote a book about Bush's first three yeas in office. But we would both be talking about George W. Bush. I don't think the takes on God in the koran and Christianity are as far apart as Jorge's and my opinions on Bush, but it would present the exact same man in two different ways.
