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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by jiggyfly, Sep 8, 2020.

  1. Os Trigonum

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    these days, I use chamomile tea...Doris Burke is also an instant sleep aid
     
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    ive been eatigg sleep gummies and they have completely changed my life. I've always been a real light sleeper and it affect did me negatively but now I get really deep sleep and I feel much better. crazy dreams though
     
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    I wish that worked for me man. Herbal teas never quite did the trick :\.
     
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    Rockets lost game 2, this must be reason.

    Chris Webber commentary has a sleepy voice.
     
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    This. My buddy’s MD wife prescribes Benadryl as a sleep aid.

    I wake up around 2-3 as well sometimes. I’ve learned to go back to sleep by controlling my breathing. Close your eyes, deep breath in counting to six, deep breath out counting to six, repeat. It works 99% of the time.
     
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    I'm in the same boat with mostly working at home. Done a lot of research... Tart cherry has been known to work.

    I bought some generic OTC sleeping aid, which turned out to be some antihistamine like benadryl that makes you drowsy.

    Alcohol or ambien might knock you out, but it kills or impairs brain activity to the point where it doesn't give you good REM sleep.

    Pot during college helped, but then I had sleep problems when I smoked less of it.

    Meditation through app like headspace or Balance works some times, but I don't meditate unless I feel shitty, so eventually I got bored of it. So it's great if you do it initially, but you gotta keep it up.

    Practical stuff? Get your sunshine. Let your circadian rhythyms naturally adjust back to sunlight. Take melatonin during or a little after sunset. To give your natural sleep patterns an extra boost

    Now for the mental part. Exercise releases cortisone and stress, so ideally it mellows out ruminating or worrying when things quiet down.

    Since we at home doing the Groundhogs Day thing, there will be days where you'll rebel and stay up late trying to find something interesting or fulfilling to cap the day. If you can avoid that and ramp down (no screentime an hour before), then you'll be good 80% of the way. Sometimes a good book might make you lapse since you're starved for novel activity, but that's not the issue you were asking advice for...
     
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    I should be asleep right now. I'm not :/
     
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    It's gonna rain all morning, so I can stay up as long as I want...

    And I'll still wake up before 7. Then if I stop doing stuff I'll want a nap later. Which will **** my sleep schedule up. Which repeats the process for a day. When I actually am tired enough to go to bed early and get a proper sleep. Which then starts the cycle all over again.
     
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    Lots of things you could try (some you may already be doing). Wake up early everyday, eliminate caffeine totally (no joke the half-life is longer than you think. I did this and my avg deep sleep went from ~30 min to 50), don’t eat sugar esp. later in the day, use your body during the day, deal with stress better. I’d ditch the Ambien and avoid other pharmaceuticals, including otc ones. Those things get you sleeping, but diminish sleep quality. Melatonin is safe and effective for sleep onset. And CBD may help with deep sleep, staying asleep.
     
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    Don't sleep on insomnia, it will kick your ass for that.
     
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    Pretty common problem. It's called "sleep-maintenance" insomnia rather than "sleep induction" insomnia. What's been recommended earlier in the thread to improve your "sleep hygiene" is the standard recommendation. There are some prescription drugs that work on sleep-maintenance but they're not as effective that meds that treat sleep-induction problems.

    Jeremiah, I don't recommend benedryl as a long term sleep aid. Did it a **** load in med school. Got really bad insomnia studying for the board exams and could only get to sleep after a beer and benedryl. It's really bad long term. Benedryl (and alcohol) have what's called anti-cholinergic properties, which impair REM sleep. So you can get to sleep (and stay asleep) but it's not restful because you're not getting enough REM sleep.
     
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    Thanks, my friend. Good advice.

    BTW, folks, @xcrunner51 is a MD, an honorary Central American dentist and president of the Box Fan Fan Club. I've known him for a long time, very smart guy. Take his advice.
     
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    Yeah it seems that I am waking up when those drugs clear my system and I don't wake up to pee, I amnot really worrying and I go to sleep just fine.

    I need to check my ambien again to make sure its slow release because I changed doctors.

    No issues with late night peeing.

    Yes I am in the Houston area don't know if thc gummy's will work.
     
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    Is it all the time?

    Mine gets bad about once year and last about 2 months.

    I'm getting older so lack of sleep affects me more these days.
     
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    What gummies?

    I was looking at some yesterday.
     

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