[inside the nba] Kenny/Chuck talking about the Rockets championship teams

This is why I hate the DH Hype Train...Its getting horrible.

1st its the Awards, which we all know can be screwed up. (Personally i believed Gerard Wallace deserved it this year)

2nd its the comparison to Shaq

3rd its the comparison to Bill Russell

and now its the Dream..

the guy is averaging 15/11 in the playoffs........Prime Ben Wallace + 1.

 

LMAO. Dwight is no Hakeem but c'mon. Some of yall are talking about him like hes just some scrub. Its not his fault or Yao's fault that they play in the era of Death of a True Center. CB34 wasn't even comparing them like that. He just wanted to make a point that the big man is what gets the team going. They feed off of him.

 

Because some of us are also tired of hearing how great he is........Some DH fans truly think he is better than Bill Russel or comparable to prime Shaq........

This Big Man can't score like the Dream, CB34 should of been comparing DH offensive skill set with Gortat.

 

Yeah I think you hit the nail on the head. Howard is obviously a very very good defensive player. But he simply doesn't have to guard anyone 1v1, and it's been proven many times that he can't guard Yao.

Dream was a terror both 1v1 and coming over for help D. Ewing and Kareem, for example, were 2 of the guys who tore up most of the league from the post, but had trouble vs. Dream. Karl Malone pissed his pants whenever Dream called to cover him. David Robinson did ok, but that's because he faced up a lot and scored off of cuts, rather than posting Dream up. The only guy I think who could score regularly on Dream in the post was Shaq. I give him props for that.

 

You're joking, right? If not I suggest you pull some stats and look at some game film of Dream's. He was on a different level than Dwight defensively.

Ben Wallace was a better defender than Howard is today.

 

these are wise men.

dowdified for truth.

 

Thank you! People now days see Dwight swat shots into the stands and oooh and ahhh. Dream would block your shot keep it in play and half the time start a fast break!!
What get's me is how no one talks about how Dream could hound point guards on the perimeter or on close outs. That and how many steals he ended up with.
Care to guess the only center in the top 10 all time steal leaders list?
Hakeem Olajuwon 2,162. Sitting comfortably between Clyde and the big O.

 

What is missed even more by the young whippersnappers here is that Dream was an amazing, phenomenal one-on-one post defender. It wasn't just the blocks and steals that made him great. He could guard a Patrick Ewing or David Robinson (both top 10 all time Centers) in the post all by himself. Dwight Howard (even according to JVG) isn't even the best post defender on his team. Marcin Gortat is.

 

And this is when Dream had slowed down defensively thanks to age and the fact the offense ran through him nearly 100%. Pull stats of a 25 year old Dream vs. Howard and it's even more one-sided.

 

Some people here need to watch some videos of Dream in his prime. He was doing things that no big man had ever done before. He dominated on both sides of the ball, and he didn't just fall back on his athleticism (like you know who), but worked hard to develop a killer all around game.

Two things that aren't mentioned enough about Dream, when comparing him to every other post 1990 big man. The first is that he was smart. He played smart. As smart as any player from his generation. The second is that he was patient. This is something that he never gets credit for. Watch some game film and it just leaps out at you how patient he was. This is why he not only dominated during those two championship runs, he also absolutely frustrated the players guarding him, because he never rushed his game. He just methodically wore his opponents down.

This is why any comparison between him and DH is absurd. Same goes for DR, Shaq, AM, Ewing, all of them. None of those guys brought everything to the table that Dream did. He was the total package of skill, athleticism, brains, patience, killer instinct, and poise.

 

That reminds me of when I was re-watching the 94 finals and that the Knicks had to double Hakeem while Hakeem single-covered Ewing and shut him down. And so many people thought going into that series that Hakeem and Ewing would cancel each other out. HA!

 

162 steals and 214 blocks. An off-year. The next season, at 26, he had 214 steals and 282 blocks. At age 24, Dream collected 140 steals and 254 blocks. That's the age Howard is now and Howard had 75 steals and 228 blocks this season. And as has been pointed out, Hakeem was a master at keeping the ball in play... and not late in his career, but early.


Why is Howard even in a conversation including the Dream?

 

I have so much man love for DREAM... He would torch anyone in the playoffs right now playing at the 90 - 96 level.

 

Are you serious?

I'm guessing you were born in 1992? You probably didn't even see The Dream play.

 

Dream learned his game in the summers at Fonde and UofH's hot box. He worked with point guards on handling the basketball and using fakes to keep his man off balance.

Yound dudes today have guaranteed millions on no need to work their game. If Dwight wants to get better, he has youtube and only needs to put in the search word "DREAm" and leave those Patrick Ewing moves in the garbage can.

He could also contact DREAM as Kobe did to pick up his game.

 

You're just being silly or you're too young to remember. Hakeem averaged over 21, 27, 30, and 37 points a game during the playoffs in his first four seasons in the league. Dream in his first year was better offensively than Yao and Howard ever were.

 

Man that block and the one against KJ in the Suns series were so sick.

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