Inside Account of Gitmo and Extraordinary Rendition

i'm talking about the "hardly torture" since you consider it hardly

 

should one take up arms against this country, one should be prepared for the consequences.

 

neither, apparently, have certain prisoners-this report, coupled with the fact that we know the CIA sometimes gets it wrong and abducts innocent civilians should give all reason to pause and reflect.

 

it's war. **** happens. civilians get killed. you can game plan around it, but you can't stop it.

 

so it is (consequences) torture?

 

Except that this was PLANNED torture. Of course you can stop it.

You can stop it by implementing the rules of engagement, and following the Geneva convention, and other basic international laws.

 

You are right. But what we are saying is that the game planning is not close to good enough.

 

except it's not war in any conventional sense of the word. and these proceedings are extrajudicial and ILLEGAL, which just rankles even more, because we have concrete proof that the CIA is doing illegal things-and massively screwing them up. Seriously, this ranks the CIA only one step above Banana Republic death squads, in that at least the prisoners are still alive. That isn't saying much.

 

were the folks at Gitmo operating under the geneva conventions?

 

under what jurisdiction?

 

http://www.chrgj.org/docs/APPG-NYU Briefing Paper.pdf

Relevant section starts at the bottom half of page 8, under heading "How do Extraordinary Renditions violate international human rights law, IHL, and refugee laws?"

 

how do they feel about beheadings? flying planes into buildings?

 

So to punish people who committed those acts, we should torture innocent civilians. That'll show those terrorists!

 

Are you on drugs?

 

is this a rhetorical question?

 

I see basso is still chasing that windmill.

 

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Straight truth from 3:24 onwards.

 

Also, need to note that if your only defense of America's actions, America "the bastion of freedom, democracy, and liberty" and if not that, at least signatory to most widely accepted international conventions on dignity and human rights, is to compare them with the actions of extrajudicial agents who blatantly violate international laws, and are thus rightfully regarded as the scum of the world-well, that is telling in of itself.

 

the fact that we dont torture made us better than other countries that do...thats what basso doesnt understand, and never will understand.

 

who said that was my only defense? we're at war, the best defense is a good offense. and i'd note as well, re muck mark above, that obama is still ****ing that (gitmo) chicken.