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[IndyStar] Pacers interested in Landry

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by TheGM, Jul 10, 2008.

  1. LabMouse

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    A question is that If we let Landary walk away if we have to use a full MLE to match a offer to retain him, then what kind of players can we get with this MLE?
    The team may decide to not use the MLE at all if there is not good player. Is this possible?
     
  2. BimaThug

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    Keep in mind that if the Rockets sign Landry to a full MLE deal, his salary will basically cost Les Alexander DOUBLE, since that will push the Rockets over the luxury tax. I imagine that $5.8M is not too unreasonable for Landry, but what about $11.6M??? That is one of the major factors affecting the Rockets. And if the Rockets manage to parlay their expiring contracts into a big time (and big money) player with a longer term deal, Houston will be paying TONS of luxury tax in 2009-10.

    Also, remember that the Rockets are pushing for maximum salary cap flexibility in the summer of 2010. If Landry is tied up to a big money deal, it could affect Houston's ability to lure a major free agent or two.
     
  3. ROXTXIA

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    If we think Dorsey can contribute this year, is there anyone on the Pacers we'd want with a Landry S&T? BYC complications would arise, so it's speculation. Brandon Rush is the player I'd want off their roster.
     
  4. BimaThug

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    It's not even an issue of Base Year Compensation. Because the Rockets only have the LLE or MLE to re-sign Landry, they CANNOT trade him. The only way he could be traded is if he accepted the minimum qualifying offer we gave him, and even then any trade would require his approval (kind of like Devean George with the first Kidd trade attempt).
     
  5. poprocks

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    Why don't we just give em Dorsey since everyone here thinks he'll be just as good as Landry.
     
  6. emjohn

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    Someone get Indianapolis a ruler. 6-6 or 6-7 is more like it.

    Evan
     
  7. DaDakota

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    This is just innaccurate.

    The Rockets can absorb a full MLE and still be right at the Lux tax, so if they matched Landry they would not be paying Lux tax.

    And, let's assume for giggles they are only $4 million away from that threshold, signing a full MLE player at $5.8 million would mean they would only pay Lux tax on $1.8 million of that contract.

    So, they are not in that bad of shape....concerning the Luxury tax.

    DD
     
  8. Carl Herrera

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    The article never said Pacers are offering the MLE.
     
  9. v3.0

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    and he plays like 6'1 :rolleyes: ...like the Pacers are gonna drop their interest over this...I'm sure when Larry Bird is replaying over and over again that game in Indy where Landry dunked all over them for his career high his first thoughts are "Meh, he's only 6'6 or 6'7"...
     
  10. rhino17

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    why are people so willing to let landry go when this si the first time in a long time that the rockets have a legit roup of pfs?

    landry is worth keeping with the MLE. There is no one else on the team that can finish around the basket like him and no one as athletic as him.
     
  11. London'sBurning

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    In the Jazz series Landry actually worked Milsap any time they went head to head.

    Also to whoever said Landry has no post game is wrong. Just because he was deferring to Yao when he was healthy doesn't mean he's lost his footwork and low post presence he had back in college.

    He's a very polished player that can at least face up. His mid range jumper extends out to at least 15 feet and in the opportunities he's had to take that shot he actually shot it more consistently than Scola.

    I don't think anyone would mind Landry getting MLE if they were sure his knee was 100%. Even so his contributions on the court were enormous.

    I think his role much like Scola was that they were asked to do too much in absence of Yao. Put Yao back in the line up and you have Scolandry back in full throttle again.
     
  12. LabMouse

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    Thanks for the information. I do not like the idea to give a full MLE to Landary, maybe let him go if he is asking too much (a full MLE), but better use the MLE wisely, not just for saving the luxury tax. This team does not have much time left to compete a tittle, need win it now.

     
  13. BimaThug

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    Are you sure about that? I thought the Rockets snuck JUST below the luxury tax line last year. Other than Jackie Butler (~$2.3M) and Bob Sura ($1M), what salaries have come off the books that won't either be re-signed (Deke) or increased (Landry)? I know the luxury tax threshhold is higher this year, but so are all of the Rockets' player salaries.

    That being said, I will defer to you, DaDakota, if you are more familiar with the Rockets' current total player salary commitments in comparison to the most current luxury tax threshhold.
     
  14. DaDakota

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    Am I sure, no, but I am going by what I have read from Morey and Feigen about it.

    DD
     
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    I completely agree. There are so many people here that have said Landry will get the MLE that I don't think they're looking at this clearly.

    I agree Landry would be hugely overpaid with the full MLE money, but so what? Losing him now's just too damned risky especially since I don't aee anyone I want to spend the MLE now who'll actually accept it.

    I must admit though that I do believe Morey won't let him walk unless we get something for him. Even if that means waiting until the trade deadline to deal him.
     
  16. declan32001

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    edit sorry
     
  17. rz04

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    Is it just me or does all this seem like a ploy by Landry's agent for more money from Houston?

    His agent has gotten more media exposure then any of the other restricted free agent, and that includes L.Deng, Gordon,Josh Smith, ect.

    This is just a theory but maybe it is all because he knows that teams are unlikely to offer close to the full MLE for a undersized PF whose game purely relies on his athleticism coming off knee injury.
     
  18. freemaniam

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    I dislike mind games between Rockets Management and Rockets players. It often leads to lose-lose outcome. Even if we got to sign with Landry at a lower price, we might never get that energetic, passionate Carl Landry on the court anymore.

    Tom.com's headline is "Rockets has prepared to lose Scola" since a Euro powerhouse (not Panathinaikos) has offered him NBA-Star-Level money (several times of his current salary) which one could hardly resist. The reporter (Yang Yi) said the offer was real according to his inside source in the organization. Take this with a grain of salt. "Scolandry" could be history after one season.

    http://nba.sports.tom.com/2008-07-10/0J1I/01090312.html
     
  19. declan32001

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    Scola's had been trying to get to the NBA for years. He's not going to give up a starting job on a 50+ win team after one season.
     
  20. Porkylicious

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    *panics*

    pay landry *cries*
     

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