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Indications point to Larry Brown as new coach

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Tuk88, May 24, 2003.

  1. wrath_of_khan

    wrath_of_khan Member

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    I know people are concerned with Brown leaving in five years, but if he wins us a title it's more than worth it.

    The other thing I like about Brown is that he might run a tight ship but his players still love him. Did anyone read that long article in SI a while back about Brown and Iverson? It might have been rocky at first, but AI would run through walls for Larry Brown now.

    I think it's the perfect combination of a tight ship but a coach the players will respond to and eventually rally behind.

    Also, the Brown/Rudy T relationship smooths over most potential bumps in the road between Rudy and his successor. Rudy has big shoes to fill in this town, and it will be awkward because he'll still have an office right down the hall from the next coach. Larry Brown could make the transition smoother.

    JVG would be a pretty good choice, but Larry Brown is a great one.
     
  2. dragon167

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    Try this article. Interesting stuff.

    http://espn.go.com/page2/s/dawkins/030515.html
     
  3. pasox2

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    The money is 1 player contract 1 year. Don't sweat that. If you can pay a Glen Rice to sit on his "injured" butt all year, you can pay to acquire a Larry Brown. It has no effect on the cap. Consider it a capital improvement cost, or marketing for the new stadium. Cheap $$.

    Coaching matters. It's time for the Tuna in Dallas. It's time for Larry Brown in Houston. In a salary-capped world of rough parity, teams need that guy who can deliver more than the sum of the parts. Larry Brown is the Olympic coach for good reason.
    He's the top of the heap. This is the guy to open the new stadium, build a winner around our franchise players, draw the international buzz to Houston, and then step aside when the guys are ready for a players coach. It's a natural progression; all the puzzle pieces fit. Go get em Les, and bring the eyes of the world to Houston. Let the Olympic broadcasts be Rocket broadcasts. Make every FA want a piece of that buzz. Get Larry Brown.

    ...

    and look at a team of assistants for position coaching and player d, with some local ties or allstar names, if only for the nat pub! It can't hurt.

    At least run some summer seminars with your local HOFs. Put Hakeem in a track suit with Malone and let them bang Eggie around. Charge admission. Bring in local high school kids. Let Clyde show Franchise some D. How to use a pick. Let Calvin show the j. Free throws. It's all right there - a no lose proposition. Involve some charities. Just do it. Show the best belong to Houston, and this is the summer schoolyard where the world's best get their game.
     
  4. JoeBarelyCares

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    4-5 years of Larry would be fine. If we hire another coach, that is how long the other coach will probably be around before we fire him, anyway, so what's the difference? What is the average lifespan with an NBA coach with one team? I bet it is not more than 5 years.

    Hold a space for me on the Larry bandwagon.
     
  5. wrath_of_khan

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    One other thing about Brown. My biggest criticism of him is that he tinkers with his teams way too much. (Don't you think he'd have liked to have Matt Harpring as another scoring option this year?)

    But, if CD stays on (and there's no reason to believe he won't), then Brown won't get complete control over the roster. So the situation with the Rockets has a failsafe against Brown's biggest weakness.

    As for the Dawkins article, that was written about one season twenty years ago. Like I said, Brown and AI got off to a rocky start, but they have a pretty decent relationship now. If AI wrote a book about his first season with Brown it would be scathing too.

    (Of course, if AI wrote any book that would be a sign of the apocalypse...)
     
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    Alot of people have talked about Mario Elie and/or Kenny Smith has the new head coach. Obviously, thats not going to happen.

    However, seeing as how Brown does have a rep for not keeping his roots firmly planted, I would not have a problem with Brown hiring one, the other, or both as his assistants. I think Elie would be a helluva choice to bring in as a new assistant especially. Brown coaches his 4-5 years and when he is ready to leave, Elie or Smith would be ready to be a head coach.

    What do yall think?
     
  7. The Real Shady

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    I like that idea of bringing in Elie as an assistant coach if we get Brown. Elie is really trying hard to get into coaching and working as an assitant under Brown for a few years would be ideal. I would also put Avery Johnson in there with Elie. I don't really like Kenny Smith as a head coach though. I don't think he would command the respect of the players like Elie and Johnson would.
     
  8. Fegwu

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    So where is the indication?

    :rolleyes:
     
  9. SLA

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    I would love Larry Brown as a head coach.

    But how in the HECK can we get him? He is under contract.

    I don't think he can just quit with the 76ers and join us......

    HOW?
     
  10. Vengeance

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    Larry Brown is the only coach I'd want over Rudy T. With everyone else we go down, IMO.
     
  11. BubbaMac

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    Just curious, I always hear that Larry Brown is a great coach. But what exactly is so great about him?

    Did he ever win a championship? Is he a great strategist? It seems to me that all he does in Philly is to just give AI the ball and tell him to shoot. How is this any different from Cat or Steve jacking up all of these shots?

    I'm not saying whether LB is good or not. But why is everyone so high on him?
     
  12. SLA

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    Bubba. Tell me what coach you think is good.

    If you don't quite remember.......he led a team to the finals like 2 years ago.

    :)

    He has coached for like........ever......more than 30 years. He's a veteran that Les would love.

    His team right now...totally sucks. He doesn't have anybody......pretty much all he has are just men and one undersize star. Look at Kenny Thomas...here he wasn't that great. Now he goes to Larry Brown's system...and Kenny is getting double-doubles every game and grabbing 15+ rebounds with more confidence and with easier shots like putbacks.

    Larry's team.....they all hustle and try very hard.

    He has not won a championship yet...I don't think. But if he came to Houston.....I believe he could create a system that is perfect for the Rockets and lead us to the FINALS...in a couple of years.

    I REALLY WANT HIM.

    But the thing is.......how can we get him when he is under contract?

    Maybe the Rockets bribe the 76ers and the 76ers fire him and he joins us?????
     
  13. pasox2

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    The Larry negatives are removed as Rudy and CD stay. This is the right guy.
     
  14. Band Geek Mobster

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    I love how everyone keeps saying so and so coach "Likes Steve and Yao"

    Can someone enlighten me and let me who doesn't like Steve and Yao?

    Also has everyone forgotten the times that Steve and Larry have clashed on the court? I remember at the end of one game, Larry thought Steve was showing his team up and he gave Steve a few words towards the end of the game.
     
  15. couch_pot8o

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    exactly!!!
     
  16. itzIce

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    I vote Larry Brown for head coach hands down but my second choice for head coach would be either JVG or Dunleavy. But i do wanna point out that "super" MARIO ELIE would be my choice to be an assistant coach for the ROX......we would be grooming another potential coach in him. He has that winner's mentality and i feel like he would put some punch into the team.


    itzIce
     
  17. MManal

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    Larry Brown would probably be at the top of my list along with Van Gundy. Lets suppose this team can only get 4 yrs out of Brown; with a minor tweak to the roster, I think that is enough time for Brown to win a championship with this core. Larry Brown is considered the master in terms of defining roles and getting people to play within a system. Brown would be great to help Steve transition over to the 2 spot and get this team working together. This team really is not as far off as it seemed last yr; a few changes and an organized approach can lead them to making a serious run. I honestly believe that with Brown in place and a few changes to the backcourt, the Rockets would easily win 50 games next season and be a legit contendor the season after that.
     
  18. Rileydog

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    we are 2 major steps away. First, we need a teacher coach to teach us fundamental ball, to define our roles. That is brown's strength. He took the clippers into the playoffs. Give brown 3-4 years, and we will have a solid foothold in the first round, with perhaps a 2nd round appearance or two.

    The next coach will be the one to take us all the way. Someone that is less of a teacher of fundamentals, but more of a inspirer, leader. Someone that knows how to win big games. Enter perhaps a phil jackson or . . . maybe Rudy has recharged his batteries and his heart of a champion will lead us back to the promised land.

    But Brown is the clear choice right now. By his actions, Les has acknowledged that we need a teacher. Someone to get us into the playoffs. Les knows it might cost some money. It already has cost money with renegotiating Rudy's deal to step down. That's only half of the equation. Now, he has to pay up to get Brown, and he should.
     
  19. The Real Shady

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    That would be so like Phil Jackson to leave the Lakers for the Rockets in 3 to 4 years. Shaq will be getting close to retirement and Kobe will have already moved on as a free agent while he will come to the Rockets with Francis and Ming hitting their primes.
     
  20. lost_elephant

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    you know sergio? come join us!!!


    LB, dunleavy, van gundy. all good coaches. on 610 radio, listening to jay mariotti and max kellerman on a more outside perspective. they really think that van gundy will be our coach/should be our coach next year.
     

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