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Increasing quickness/explosiveness/jump

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Sane, Jun 1, 2004.

  1. yipengzhao

    yipengzhao Member

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    yes. that is what i'm talking about.

    i have horrible knees... so i doubt my gains would be great. but if i could get up a little higher i think i'd be much better. since my game is a catch and shoot... now that i've lost a step it's harder to score all the time.
     
  2. Stack24

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    Just make sure you work out your upper legs with the program as well, cause i know a couple of my friends that just the program and didn't really focus on the rest of their legs just their calfs and stuff to get explosive.

    Both of them ended up injuring their Knees. Which i hope that doesn't happen to anyone else.
     
  3. yipengzhao

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    that's not gonna be a problem for me because my knees are already injured. LOL...

    seriously though... i guess i shouldn't try then. maybe i'll work on a quick release like michael redd. my defense will still suck but it was never stellar in the first place.
     
  4. bamaslammer

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    Put me in the "deceptively" quick category. I had a freak growth spurt where I went from 5-11 to 6-5 in a matter of months. Needless to say, when I got back on a basketball court, it was pretty awkward! But our coach got us doing polymetrics and ladder drills and I went from being clumsy and slow to being able to get up and dunk over people with some explosive quickness. But like anything worth doing, the results don't take effect overnight.
     
  5. tozai

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    Air Alert, Jumpsoles, etc. is crap. Plyos are good, but most people have no business doing them. Playing basketball is plyometric itself. You have to build a strength base first. If you're interested in lifting, I could give you some ideas.
     
  6. Stack24

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    I have a great base right now cuase i have strong legs overall that's why i have an ability to jump high as it is right now for being only 6 feet tall.

    Any suggestions would be appreciated. I know pylos just help you get a faster jump speed and explosivness. Which i guess i need more...If i actually try to jump i have a good vertical. Jumping flatfooted or at an instance is where i am slower and on't get the same height.
     
  7. tozai

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    This tells me that you actually do not have as good a strength base as you think. Jumping flatfooted requires more strength (from lifting) while from a run involves more reactivity (plyos).

    That's the problem with cookie cutter programs that people buy. It's a very individual thing. Most people are weak and would be better served to just get stronger. If they play basketball regularly, the plyometrics is somewhat taken care of. Increasing your vertical is a combination of getting stronger and being able to express that strength quickly.

    I bet you didn't know that most football players (even linebackers and D lineman) have better verticals than basketball players because they are stronger. They just all don't have the reactiveness from playing basketball.

    Do you have any experience lifting? How many years, if any? How often would you be going to the weight room?
     
  8. Stack24

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    I played a lot of sports when i was in school and all the way up to now. i have started to go back to the gym and work with weights more and more again. Im still a beginer in that sense.

    My legs are much stronger than my upper body is by a long margin. I have always had strong legs from all the sports i played but never took the time to build my upper strength.

    If i stand flat footed and try to get my highest jump i can grab the rim. When i am at a run or take a few steps i get up there enough to dunk when i was a bit lighter now i can get as high but not high enough to dunk.

    I honestly knew about the football fact becuase i have seen how some of them can jump in replays and just by checking the draft combine info and seeing these 300 pound people get up a good 30 inches or more.

    Also reminds me of a weightlifter (powerlifter actually) in the olympics the guy was like 5 4 and like 300 something but he still had close to a 40 inch vertical.
     
  9. Sane

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    If Ic ould afford to pay for this stuff I'd just hire a personal trainer ;) .

    tozai, I'd love some ideas for lifting weights.

    I heard the abdomen is crucial to explosiveness, is this true?


    I have a VERY powerfully built lower body courtesy of playing soccer since I was a child. That is why I'm a bit heavier than the average person at my height. Genetically, I have big bones, and my lower body is very muscular.

    From what I've heard, I need to work on getting stronger buttock muscles (for jump), on my abs (for explosiveness), and basically do the exercise where I bounce the ball off the wall, jump, grab it, throw it back up, jump again, grab it, and keep repeating till I die.

    Any other suggestions? I'm reading up on all the links you guys gave me, and I'll check back with those, but thanks in advance everyone.
     
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    kicksology.net has a great review on a particular brand of jump shoes
     
  12. Yao Wink

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    Just get a couple of boxes or chairs(strong ones) and place them like 5 feet apart from each other.Step up onto the box/chair and take a step down(not jump) ,and quickly explode onto the other box/chair then repeat. Do that about 12-15 times in sets of three. You can either do that or just jump rope.
     
  14. Sane

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    Would love to get the shoes, but as mentioned, don't really have the cash.

    The plyometrics seem promising. I'm checking YaoWink's suggestion right now, and hopefully tozai can give me some helpful pointers as well.
     
  15. tozai

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    Strength shoes...haha...the only thing you'll get from them are bigger calves, sore achilles, and marginal improvement if you're lucky enough to not get hurt. I read that kicksology review...that guy is a moron. He keeps getting hurt and thinks he should take a break and try them again.


    Air Alert is crap. You're just asking for an injury on it. Everyone wants to do plyometrics. You need to get stronger first. Playing basketball is plyometric.

    Do these three exercises every 4 days or so 6 times:
    http://www.bsu.edu/webapps/strengthlab/exdetails.asp?exid=152
    http://www.bsu.edu/webapps/strengthlab/exdetails.asp?exid=147 (Use dumbbells instead)
    http://www.bsu.edu/webapps/strengthlab/exdetails.asp?exid=182

    Start out with 3x10 for 2 weeks, then 4x8 for 2 weeks, then 5x5 for 2 weeks.

    Keep in mind that this is not a quick fix. It takes time and hard work. You can still play basketball, but I'd try to not play the day you lift and possibly the day after as well.
     

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