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  1. ascaptjack

    ascaptjack Member

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    We've heard this story before.

    :rolleyes:
     
    #161 ascaptjack, Nov 6, 2011
  2. Keyser Soze

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    HOW U
     
    #162 Keyser Soze, Nov 6, 2011
  3. ascaptjack

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    MrMichaelLee Michael Lee
    I see now that George Cohen NBA mediation sessions are like Snoop Dogg house parties. They don't stop 'til 6 in the mornin'!

    MrMichaelLee Michael Lee
    Cohen to Stern: "So what you wanna do?" Stern to Hunter: "What you wanna do?" Hunter: "I got a pocket full of concessions & DFish does to."

    MrMichaelLee Michael Lee
    Just asked someone with knowledge of NBA labor negotiations if sides were almost home on a deal. Response: "Very close"

    Yeah, Yeah, Yeah. :rolleyes:
     
    #163 ascaptjack, Nov 6, 2011
  4. ascaptjack

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    Sir Soze, don't get your hopes up. Something or someone is bound to eff this up.
     
    #164 ascaptjack, Nov 6, 2011
  5. francis 4 prez

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    very well? not just well? i guess this means they're about to announce games are cancelled through next christmas.
     
    #165 francis 4 prez, Nov 6, 2011
  6. sinobball

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    Bring back the NBA!!!
     
    #166 sinobball, Nov 6, 2011
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    Just wait until BRI comes up. Then......:rolleyes:
     
    #167 coachbadlee, Nov 6, 2011
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    These roller coaster meetings have me wired in. Lets get this **** done tonight!!!!
     
    #168 Keyser Soze, Nov 6, 2011
  9. ascaptjack

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    Seriously, it's like groundhog's day. Rinse, recycle, and repeat.

    We know how this story is going to end up.

    looking like a letdown. how u
     
    #169 ascaptjack, Nov 6, 2011
  10. ascaptjack

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    We gonna need to have Hunter and Stern hammered up in order for a deal to get done.
     
    #170 ascaptjack, Nov 6, 2011
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    #171 GreatOne1978, Nov 6, 2011
  12. ascaptjack

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    WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
    Labor meeting has ended.

    KBergCBS Ken Berger
    NBA talks are over for the night. "No deal," a source says.

    alanhahn Alan Hahn
    Meeting concluded...we're being summoned. #NBA

    Told you guys don't get your hopes up.

    looking like more cancellations. how u
     
    #172 ascaptjack, Nov 6, 2011
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    WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
     
    #173 sinobball, Nov 6, 2011
  14. ascaptjack

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    HowardBeckNYT Howard Beck
    No deal, I'm told. Not sure what it means yet.

    Chris_Broussard Chris Broussard
    Meeting just ended after 8 1/2 hours... Headed to press conference
     
    #174 ascaptjack, Nov 6, 2011
  15. ascaptjack

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    ZachLowe_SI Zach Lowe
    Separate press conferences. No deal, and there wasn't going to be one tonight. My semi-informed guess: Muted progress. Not enough.

    KBergCBS Ken Berger
    League officials speaking first in separate press conference room.
     
    #175 ascaptjack, Nov 6, 2011
  16. ascaptjack

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    alanhahn Alan Hahn
    #NBA will go first with presser, which suggests the obvious: nothing done. #NBPA has their own press conference ro
     
    #176 ascaptjack, Nov 6, 2011
  17. ascaptjack

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    KBergCBS Ken Berger
    Stern: The mediator made sort of a 'what if' recommendation to both sides including six subjects .

    daldridgetnt David Aldridge
    Stern: we had a long day today..in the course of the evening the mediator made a what if recommend on 6 subj, Inc BRI...

    KBergCBS Ken Berger
    Stern: Coen suggested 49-51 BRI band for BRI ... mini mid-level $2.5M for 2-year deal for tax payers ... recommended no s&t for tax payers
     
    #177 ascaptjack, Nov 6, 2011
  18. ascaptjack

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    KBergCBS Ken Berger
    Stern: Cohen suggested $1 tax on repeat offenders and modification of so-called "cliff" on luxury tax ...

    KBergCBS Ken Berger
    Stern: We accepted the first five (suggested) and adopted as our proposal. We told the players we would put those in writing ...

    daldridgetnt David Aldridge
    BRI band from 49-51, mini MLE (2.5m for two years) for taxpayers, compromise on lux tax payments, league accepts 5 of 6 proposals from Cohen
     
    #178 ascaptjack, Nov 6, 2011
  19. ascaptjack

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    WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
    Stern says NBA adopted 5 of 6 suggestions of compromises by mediator, and would be "amenable" to making deal on that until Wednesday.

    KBergCBS Ken Berger
    Stern: We hoped they would accept it and would be amenable to it by the close of business on Wednesday ...

    KBergCBS Ken Berger
    Stern: If no deal by Wednesday, we will be making a "new proposal" ... a 47 percent proposal and a flex cap ...

    daldridgetnt David Aldridge
    League will hold offer until close of business Wednesday, then go back to 47 percent BRI/flex cap proposal from before..

    KBergCBS Ken Berger
    Stern: We hope that this juxtaposition will cause the union to reassess its position and accept the deal.

    ZachLowe_SI Zach Lowe
    Wow. Stern just laid it bare. Take the deal on the table now by Wednesday or we go back to 47% and flex cap.

    WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
    Stern says if no deal by Wednesday, he threatens 47 percent on BRI, a flex cap and worse.

    daldridgetnt David Aldridge
    Stern says union attorney rejected proposals from Cohen and league...

    KBergCBS Ken Berger
    Stern: Mr. Kessler rejected mediator's suggestions and our proposal. But hope springs eternal and we would love for the players to accept.

    WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
    Stern says that union attorney, Jeff Kessler, rejected the compromise deal.

    KBergCBS Ken Berger
    Stern: Kessler rejected "virtually everything."

    ZachLowe_SI Zach Lowe
    Stern attempting to paint union lawyer, Kessler, as the intransigent villain here.

    WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
    Stern: "This offer will be on table until Wednesday, and then we will have another proposal..."

    KBergCBS Ken Berger
    Stern: This offer will be on the table until Wednesday, the close of business.

    alanhahn Alan Hahn
    Stern says Cohen presented framework for deal, owners accepted, union's Jeffrey Kessler rejected. Offer stays on table until Wed. #NBA #fb

    WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
    Stern on Wednesday deadline: "We want to allow enough time for union to consider most recent proposal, and we are hopeful they accept it."

    KBergCBS Ken Berger
    Stern: I think certainly Billy and I shared both our frustration and a sadness and Mr. Kessler himself said it was a sad state of events.

    KBergCBS Ken Berger
    Stern, asked if can get this passed by owners, said, "Yes."

    daldridgetnt David Aldridge
    Stern: I think Billy and I shared a frustration and a sadness ... The two sides tried but we couldn't breach the gap

    HowardBeckNYT Howard Beck
    David Stern says union rejected, at least initially, a slate of compromises suggested by mediator and adopted by NBA.

    KBergCBS Ken Berger
    Stern: No sign and trade for tax payers.

    WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
    Owners drop-dead offer includes no sign-and-trade for taxpaying teams.

    HowardBeckNYT Howard Beck
    Proposal, with a 49-51 "band" of revenue for players, will be on table until Weds. After that, NBA will propose 47% for players, Stern sez

    KBergCBS Ken Berger
    Stern says deal on table would come "closer than our current system" and "the best we could do at this time. We're prepared to live by them"
     
    #179 ascaptjack, Nov 6, 2011
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    Stern laid down the hammer with that ultimatum.

    If the union doesn't take it, they've officially dug themselves into a huge hole they'll never get out of...
     
    #180 redhotrox, Nov 6, 2011
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