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In the market for a new computer.

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Oski2005, Jul 14, 2003.

  1. Oski2005

    Oski2005 Member

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    Will I get software already installed, a monitor, speakers, a warranty, 24 hour tech support etc?;)


    I don't know what my problem, is, but I know a home built pc will work fine, but I can't help but compare it to getting a guy down the street to build me a car. Not to mention I couldn't pay 1000 up front, so I make use of the payment plans from comp makers.

    This is what I did at the HP website:

    hp pavilion a250y
    Included Features:
    (Click on features for more info) Total memory slots: 4 DIMM
    3 PCI Expansion Slots(2 available)
    1 AGP Port
    V.90 K56flex modem
    Integrated 10/100Base-T networking
    hp pavilion software bundle
    One-year limited hardware warranty
    USB 2.0 Technology
    Premium Minitower

    Processor P4HT 2.8GHz + Free Corel WP11
    Memory 512 MB DDR PC2700 - (2 DIMM)
    Hard Drive 80 GB Hard Drive (5400 RPM)
    Primary CD/DVD Drive 16x DVD-ROM Drive
    Secondary CD/DVD Drive 48x max. CD-Writer Drive
    Graphics Card 128MB DDR ATI Radeon 9800.
    Monitor 17 in. hp m703c $50 REBATE
    Front Productivity Ports 2 USB, 1 IEEE 1394 + ArcSoft,.
    Sound Card Sound Blaster Audigy - card
    Keyboard and Mouse Internet Kybd, Optical Mouse
    Operating System Windows XP Home Edition.
    Digital Camera None
    Printer hp deskjet 3650 - $50 rebate
    All-In-One None
    Floppy Drive Add. Storage. None
    Application Software Corel WordPerfect Suite
    Speakers Altec Lansing 221 2.1 Speakers

    SYSTEM PRICE :
    (As low as $44.10/month) $1,469.97
     
  2. Pole

    Pole Houston Rockets--Tilman Fertitta's latest mess.

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    Here ya go: $1618.....although personally, I'd come up with about 3 bills more to get a Soundblaster Audigy and the Klipsch speakers--but that's just me. Anyway, this one has 4.2 Ghz 800MHz FSB, 1 GB of PC-3200 RAM, and a 120 MB HD.....along with your DVD and CD-RW, and a good case, MB, and a great keyboard, mouse, and monitor.

    Category/Item Quantity Price
    Accessories
    Thermaltake Blue Cold Cathode Light | Voice Controlled | Lights inside case w/ cool blue glow (NU=00883005) 1 Standard
    Mousepad 8" x 9 1/2" (NU=17114107) 1 Standard
    Cases & Server-Rackmount
    Raidmax Diamond Series (SILVER) 10-bay 350 Watt USB 2.0 panel window & fan (Zinc plated steel) (NU=11156113) 1 $-40
    CD/DVD ROM_RW & Media
    Lite On 52x32x52 CD-RW Black | Model LTR-52327S (NU=27106197) 1 Standard
    LITE-ON 16x DVD 48x CD-ROM Drive (Black) (NU=27131603) 1 Standard
    Fans & Related
    Zalman CNPS5700D-CU Pure Copper CPU Cooler (NU=35118104) 1 Standard
    Floppy Drives & Media
    Mitsumi 1.44 MB Floppy Drive - BLACK (NU=21104101) 1 Standard
    Hard Drives
    Western Digital 120GB 7200RPM 8MB Cache | Hard Drive - Special Edition (NU=22144118) 1 Standard
    Logitech Cordless Elite Duo Keyboard and Mouse combo (black & silver) (NU=23126115) 1 Standard
    Multimedia Microphone with Base (NU=36111104) 1 Standard
    Memory & Flash Media
    Corsair DDR400 512MB PC-3200 C2 XMS | (extreme memory speed series) (NU=20145416) 2 pieces $128
    Modem and Network Devices
    Aopen Internal FM56-SVV 56K V.92 V/F/D PCI Modem (NU=25131005) 1 Standard
    Monitors & LCD Display
    Samsung SyncMaster 753DF Flat CRT monitor (Biege) (NU=24001002) 1 $-546
    Motherboards
    Asus P4C800 Deluxe Intel 875P Canterwood Gigabit LAN 8X AGP (NU=13131449) 1 Standard
    Processors
    Intel Pentium 4 2.8GHz 512k 800MHz FSB (NU=19116161) 1 $7
    Software
    Microsoft Windows XP Home with Service Pack 1a (NU=37110013) 1 Standard
    none Sound Cards & MIDI Devices 1 $-109
    none Speakers & Headphones 1 $-93
    ASUS V9280TD GeForce 4 Ti4200 128MB AGP 8X TV & DVI-OUT (NU=14121136) 1 $-228

    price with option: $1618
     
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  4. FranchiseBlade

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    Pole's PC is pretty good. I would change the monitor and get something a little cheaper but that's totally up to you.

    I would definitely check out this website too. I'm writing using one of their computers now. It's good quality and cheap for what you get. Just make sure if you dont' have MS Word to install that you include it in the bundle you order.

    http://www.gentechpc.com/

    They have a good warranty, and I've checked with Better Business Bureau about them before I bought this PC. The customer service isn't 24/7 but it is really good.
     
  5. bamaslammer

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    My wife's got one and she loves it (a Vaio PC). I know this is a dumb question, but what does Vaio mean if anything?
     
  6. Pole

    Pole Houston Rockets--Tilman Fertitta's latest mess.

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    That PC was actually $2,500 before I modified it, and it came with an LCD. I added a much better value monitor in my config.....the monitor is actually a negative $546 (off of the original $2,500)
     
  7. Pole

    Pole Houston Rockets--Tilman Fertitta's latest mess.

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    Also, that PC came from www.nutrend.com which will occasionally garner a top five in www.pcword.com 's reviews. I recommend nutrend to everyone looking to get a new PC, but for myself, I build my own. Unlike Darkhorse, I can't build one for $500 though....I can spend that much on speakers.

    I used to find that "rolling" my own was a way to save money, but it seems that the economies of scale that the big guys enjoy along with much tighter margins has really wittled that down to next to nothing. I may save a bit, but nowhere near enough to justify the time spent searching for the right components at the best price and the few hours of time it takes to build one. I just do it because I enjoy it.
     
  8. Oski2005

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    I'm not really an audiophile, but I do want a good soundcard incase I go for some real good seakers later on. At HP, I just found out that I can get a student discount. They took about $90 off the price, not bad. I'm gonna keep shopping and see if I can find more student discounts.
     
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  9. SaFe

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    Word processor for home can be run on pretty much any P4 machine on the market these days. If you are thinking about going into gaming, the two things you really need to spend money in is ram and graphic card (unless your a sound freak, then you might want to get like 200 speakers and stuff). For the next regeneration games like Half-Life 2, you need a high end video card, ATI 9700 pro and up. In GeForce terms, that would be about a 5700FX card IIRC. For the money, ATI is better IMO. Ram, your need Dual 3200 DDR, at least 512 (2 sticks of 256).

    If your shopping on Dell.com, those should be minium requirements for a good gaming computers.

    Pricewatch.com is a good place for price guild.

    Newegg.com has superb support and fast shipping if you decide to buy.
     
  10. Oski2005

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    I think I'm gonna go with the HP, I get a nice student discount and I included a printer as well. My only problem is the lack of some options, particularly with the ram. I can only choose from 2 versions of 512 mb DDR or 2 versions of 1 GB DDR. I guess I'll go with the gig since I'll need at least 512 mb. I think I'll call to see if the computer will have extra slots for me to upgrade, then I can go with 512 and add a stick whenever I find something on sale. I guess now I just have to call my pops and clear it with him. Thanks for the help dudes. I don't know if you hardcore guys will be down with my HP PC, but at least my printer is badass. :D
     
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    i dont keep up with hardware but ive been researching for the past 2-3 weeks for my new computer. i'm planning to get the parts by the end of this month:

    Lian Li PC-6070 = 178
    Enermax EG365-VE 350 watts = 54
    Abit IS7 intel 865PE = 109
    P4 2.4GHz HT 800MHz = 175
    Zalman CNPS6500B = 28
    Corsair ddr400 pc3200 256 (2x) = 118
    WD 36GB Raptor 10K rpm = 139
    ATI Radeon 8500 64MB = 65
    Hercules Fortissimo = 46
    NIC built in = 0
    NEC 16X = 32
    NEC dvd-r 4x cdr 16x = 149
    floppy = 8
    cables = 15
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    total: ~$1,116

    i'm really excited about my case and the WD Raptor HD, i might spend the extra money and get 2 hard drives and put it in a RAID 0. I've read reviews of the WD Raptor in a RAID 0, and the speeds are pretty sick.
     
  12. Coach AI

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    The HP is a good computer, I think some are just a little worried about store bought systems. I just want to stay away from the days of integrated boards, because they lack the ability to really upgrade.

    I build my own, and it's a lot easier than you might think.

    But if I was to buy, I'd go Dell. Although, dream-system-wise I'd go for one of these. The only pre-built comp I'd think of getting...

    http://www.alienware.com/gaming_main_desktop.aspx
     
  13. Oski2005

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    Believe me, if I had the money, I'd be going with Alienware and I would not be starting this thread.
     
  14. fredy

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    I just got a vaio from fry's and I'm loving it.
     
  15. ArtV

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    Stay away from the IBM Stinkpads - Go with Dell.
     
  16. Shot caller

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    You should hard set your virtual memory on your existing laptop to twice the size of your RAM. I bet you see far fewer virtual memory errors.

    If you are interested, let me know whick OS you are using.
     
  17. Shot caller

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    <b>movement</b>

    Don't spend the money on the RAID. The speeds are fast, but in real world applications, you will not notice.
    If you do a lot of video or audio editing (not MP3's) you will enjoy it, otherwise it isn't really worth the money.
     
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    Sorry for the triple post, but if you are looking for a cheap prebuilt PC or laptop www.tigerdirect.com usually has some good deals. i haven't bought from them, but have refered others and they have had good luck.
    They have just been bought by yahoo I think.

    Newegg and pricewatch are good too (as stated previously), though pricewatch takes a bit of work these days.

    I have spent a bit of money with Gameve.com as well, and been very satisfied.
     
  19. Coach AI

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    I'm right there with you. It makes me cry at night.

    That's why I build my own. Although it used to be a much bigger gap, it can still be cheaper to custom build. Also, you can get it piece by piece....allowing for the recovery of funds. :D
     

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