In the immortal words of Phil Jackson "Lets give these guys some f ing credit

just saying that more people will read your opinion if you split it up. most people here probably have had higher education but no one likes reading long paragraphs.

so if you want to post again, you can avoid all the "hate" on this board by using paragraphs ...although you'll probably get blasted for something else (for instance, by DD for not hating tmac enough).

 

I have no idea what you are talking about, Goron is talented because he has the ability to take over the game and he has a higher celling than someone like Ariza, who is a very good role player. Ariza has been given the green light all season and we know the result, he can improve but he lacks the ability to create shots for others which not a lot of players have and it is not somethign that can be easily developed.

You go on to say i am getting talent and athleticism confused, yet you claim that Ariza is more talented than Gordon because he is "ultra athletic". Which also makes your last obvious statement really pointless.

 

I thought you were going a bit off topic because you started talking about stuff outside of basketball, if we include being smart as talent when talking about basketball we could also include numerous things.

Josh Smith was a player that took stupid shots, but over the years he started playing to his strength, stopped shooting 3s completely etc, Tony Parker is also another one of those players, maybe Ariza will be too.

With Gordon , i just like his skill set and scoring mentality, size will be limiting but there are great players and have been great players who have played well (Like how AB uses his speed to get around bigger guards)

 

Yes, and I agree. There is a reason why paragraphs were invented, it wasn't just for ****s and giggles. Oh, and commas, too, you should really look into purchasing one of those for your keyboard.

 

I like your sig.

 

Hey flip, I read the post just fine... Dw about it man, I agree with you 100%. I do see Landry as a future all star I just hope in a Rockets uniform. And for those girls crying over paragraphs, just stop it gosh. Its not the end of the world....

 

Agreed on Brooks,

Dwill, Cp3, rondo, drose, nelson, nash, parker, billups , mo williams, monte ellis,

probably make it in top 10 before brookes. he could beat these guys and have a better game against them but he just isn't consistent yet. But he is in the better half of PG i think though.

That is suprising about boozer though, I think landry can be better than Boozer and I really never noticed that Boozer is much bigger than landry. They are the same height and boozer outweights him by like 10 lbs and his the weight difference is more body frame rather than muscle mass, i think more of landry's weight comes from muscle mass.

 

BTW, to the OP, i read the entire paragraph and had no problems with it...not like you wrote a page long paragraph.

 

beware of . . .




DERAILMENT.

Rocket River
If they cannot blind you with Brilliance
they will attempt to baffle you with bull****

 

You have officially just lost all credibility on this forums.

 

Yeah Westphal has always been a good coach dating back to his days coaching Chuck KG and the Suns. I remember our teams going head to head in epic battles, and I had a healthy respect for the guy because he actually played by the rules unlike Sloan and Karl, and he didn't pretend to be this guru genius when in reality it was his talent that made him look good (a la Phil Jackson).

Along with Larry Brown on the Spurs/Pacers, Westphal was one of the two coaches that I knew about and wouldn't have minded taking Rudy T's spot as the Rockets' coach. Westphal is definitely a coach who deserved another shot earlier than he got it, and now the results are obviously paying off.

 

Yeah, smart or not, I didn't read past the first couple of lines of your post because it was all jumbled together.

Your thread title and first few sentences seemed to have promise, but I guess you are underestimating the value of just formatting your post. Even for those that skim, they can get the idea of your whole post if you break it up.

 

interesting

 

Here's a Hollinger ranking along this same topic:

Earlier this month ESPN's John Hollinger published his "NBA Futures Power Rankings".

Here's the explanation:

The Future Power Rankings are ESPN Insider's projection of the on-court success expected for each team during the 2010-11, 2011-12 and 2012-13 seasons.
Each of the NBA's 30 teams received an overall Future Power Rating of 0 to 1,000, based on how well we expected each team to perform in the three seasons following this season.

To determine the Future Power Rating, we rated each team in five categories (see table at right).

As you can see, we determined that the most important category was a team's current players and the future potential of those players -- that category accounted for 40 percent of each team's overall Future Power Rating.

Here's the explanation for the "Players" category:
PLAYERS (0 to 400 points): Current players and their potential for the future, factoring in expected departures

In Hollinger's rankings the Rockets are 26th in players. The Clippers are 9th and the Kings are 16th.

Here's the rankings for each of the three teams.

10. Los Angeles Clippers | Future Power Rating: 555



PLAYERS MANAGEMENT MONEY MARKET DRAFT
242 (9th) 57 (26th) 129 (5th) 63 (9th) 64 (9th)



We thought these were the same old Clippers when Blake Griffin hurt his knee, but L.A. moved up one spot into the top 10 by playing some competent basketball in the opening seven weeks. Most notably, embattled coach/GM Mike Dunleavy seems to have his charges' attention, something that wasn't always the case a year ago, while center Chris Kaman seems reborn.

As a result the Clips' lowly management score improved a bit, although it will never be good as long as Donald Sterling stays in town. Nobody's sure yet whether the Clippers can seal the deal on a quality free agent in the summer given their history, or even whether Dunleavy will be the one making the call.

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13. Houston Rockets | Future Power Rating: 514


PLAYERS MANAGEMENT MONEY MARKET DRAFT
122 (26th) 156 (2nd) 124 (7th) 61 (10th) 51 (14th)



One might be surprised to see the Rockets' ranking almost the same in light of their surprising strong start, but there's a reason this is called the Future Power Rankings. While Houston has indeed seen stellar performances that bode well going forward -- most notably from sixth man Carl Landry -- the talent base still doesn't compare well with that of many other teams. That's especially true if they can't re-sign forward Luis Scola, who has probably been their best player after Landry in the early part of the season.

If anything, the cohesive play is another feather in the cap for Houston's management, including GM Daryl Morey and head coach Rick Adelman. But our ratings already showed a very healthy respect for both men: It's hard to move them up much more in that category when they're already second and the one franchise ahead of them wears four rings.




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22. Sacramento Kings | Future Power Rating: 448


PLAYERS MANAGEMENT MONEY MARKET DRAFT
194 (16th) 80 (22nd) 75 (27th) 29 (26th) 70 (6th)



Sacramento's score improved by 105 points, pushing them from 28th to 22nd, thanks to the team's surprisingly strong start and the Rookie of the Year-caliber play of Tyreke Evans. While Brandon Jennings has received more buzz, Evans has been more effective, and he's a big reason the Kings have kept pace with their more heralded West counterparts.

He's not the only one, though. Youngsters Jason Thompson, Omri Casspi and Sergio Rodriguez have provided strong starts, while Beno Udrih -- who still has three years left on his contract -- emerged from the depths of their rotation to post a stellar November. Even Donte Greene, who looked as though he had no clue how to play a year ago, has emerged as a quality rotation player.

Sacramento's management score improved, too, because of both the wisdom of their draft picks this year and the impact that new coach Paul Westphal has had. About the only negative so far has been yet another injury to high-scoring guard Kevin Martin -- his durability is a major question going forward.



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Ok, but Hollinger did come up with the PER statistic which has become a pretty standard measure. Who do you respect? Can you show me a single credible source that says the current Rockets have alot of talent?

Generally, when experts assess team's talent level it starts with star players. Then it goes to the secondary players and role players. The issue with the current Rockets is that they don't have any stars. You can argue about Brooks being a top 10 PG, but top 10 pgs don't make you and All-Star. The Rockets don't have the All-Stars right now. What they have is an accumulation of secondary players and role players. Is that a bad thing? No, because that won't be the case next year. Yao will be back and he is a star. Let's see what Morey can do with McGrady's contract and we all might be pleasantly surprised at the result.