In Speech Bush Returns to Fear Mongering as Polls Drop

i often quote the times, not sure what the big deal about that is.

 

its not a big deal, but seems like you wouldnt quote something so much that you find to be "stuck on stupid".

i sure wouldnt get so much of my news from something i found "stupid".

perhaps you could discuss the content of the article rather than just hurling insults.

 

the content of the "article", which is an oped piece, looks clearly backwards, only wants to play the blame game "(or more accurately, i told you so), and offers nothing nin the way of looking forward. that's why i said they're stuck on stupid. it'd be interesting to hear from the times, or any other liberals, how they'd address the current state of affairs. history will judege whether they were right, or W was wrong, about invading iraq. the question before us is, what do we do now? the times has no answer.

 

Basso, illustrated.

 

Just curious, why would NYT have an answer for the mess in Iraq? It is the job of the media to point out government mistakes but it is not the job of the media to fix those mistakes. Are you suggesting the editors of NYT should be running this country?

 

They say the rebels in Iraq still fight for Saddam
But that's bull****, I'll show you why it's totally wrong
Cuz if another country invaded the hood tonight
It'd be warfare through Harlem, and Washington Heights
I wouldn't be fightin' for Bush or White America's dream
I'd be fightin' for my people's survival and self-esteem
I wouldn't fight for racist churches from the south, my *****
I'd be fightin' to keep the occupation out, my *****

 

I thought YOU guys had all the answers! Where's all that bluster and arrogance, now that almost everyone is beginning to realize how poorly thought-out this administration's rush to war was?

 

Wouldn't it be much better? What's the downside?

 

Pretty telling isn't it? "We didn't listen now YOU get us out of our mess!"

 

Well for one Basso would go crazy.

 

This is the new logic, unbelievable and hilarious as it is. If we on the left won't solve the problems created by the right, we're "stuck on stupid." They've given up defending their incredible (and incredibly deadly) mistake and are now focused on tarring us for not fixing it. It really is amazing.

 

The next time basso posts a new thread quoting the NYT, I think we all should reply with the
"stuck on stupid" catch phrase.

Good times.

 

This is so Kerry-esque. It won't work.

 

Gotcha. I agree, if we just follow the Bush strategy it WILL cotinue to simply be a quagmire.

 

Just notice this. B4L, congrats for becoming a Senior Member!

 

Thanks, now anyone have a link to the tipjar? Now that I have an actual job I think I should stop being a moocher.

 

does not what happens in iraq affect us all? aren't they american problems, not merely of the left or of the right? i'm fine letting you have your little i-told-u-so-b****-fest, but it gets tiresome after a while, and as i've noted several times, it's really irrelevant to what we do now. you've stated quite forcefully that you just want it to stop- you don't seem to care how. for the purposes of this arguement, i'll stipulate that you-told-us-so. if that's the case, is "just make it stop" really the wisest course for america, let alone iraq?

 

I guess we're all just waiting for one of you guys -- ANY one on the right -- to say, "You know, this WAS a bad idea. How could we have been so utterly wrong?"

Until then, the i-told-u-so-b****-fest will have to do.