In Speech Bush Returns to Fear Mongering as Polls Drop

Hmm... poll numbers dropping... major speech reminding us all how much evil there is lurking out there... then...

VOILA! NYC subway threat!

This administration's choreography is worse than Britney's.

 

OH! Snap!

 

you freedom hater!!!

its called coincidence and heres some more of them...all coincidence

January 10, 2002 – Bush gets hammered by the press over his relationship with Ken Lay. He swears he doesn’t know him. Congress starts questioning the relationship between Lay and Bush beginning February 5.

February 12, 2002 - Attorney General John Ashcroft called on "all Americans to be on the highest state of alert" after an FBI warning of a possible imminent terrorist attack.

or

September 20, 2002 -- In the wake of damaging Congressional 9/11 inquiry revelations, President Bush reverses course and backs efforts by many lawmakers to form an independent commission to conduct a broader investigation than the current Congressional inquiry. The White House also refuses to turn over documents showing what Bush knew before 9/11. Relatives of 9/11 victims grill the Bush Administration over their reluctance to get to the bottom of it.

September 24, 2002 – Ashcroft elevates the terror alert to Orange

or

February 6, 2003 - Powell pleads with the UN Security Council for a first strike against Iraq.

February 9, 2003 - Citing credible threats that al Qaeda might be planning attacks on American targets, the U.S. government raised the national color-coded threat level to orange, indicating a "high" risk of a terrorist attack

or

July 25, 2003 -- After the Bush administration delayed its publication for months, Congress releases its 9/11 findings. The Bush Gang also deletes 28 pages of the report believed to detail Saudi funding of members of Al Qaeda in the Untied States prior to Sept. 11. Three days later, American troops are charged with beating Iraqi prisoners and 15 soldiers die over eight days of fighting.

July 29 - Department of Homeland Security issues a warning about the possibility of suicide attacks on airplanes.

or

December 18, 2003 -- 9/11 Chairman Thomas Kean says the attacks were preventable. One day later a federal appeals court ruled the government can not detain U.S. citizen Jose Padilla indefinitely without filing charges against him or allowing him access to the courts. The same day The Wall Street Journal reports that auditors at the Pentagon are accusing Halliburton of refusing to hand over internal documents related to allegations that the oil service company overcharged the U.S. government in Iraq and then, to top it off, David Kay quits, having found no WMD’s.


Dec. 21, 2003 - Ridge raises the terror threat level just in time for the holidays.

or

The week of March 15, 2004 -- Military families organize together to oppose the war, Democrats call for probe on Medicare cost cover-up and Condi opts out of appearing at the 9/11 Commission hearings. She repeats her refusal several times during the week, and later on appears on 60 Minutes to explain her position. Then, CNN reports that a "high target" Al Qaeda leader has been "surrounded" in the border with Pakistan. It is also suggested it may be Bin Laden or al-Zawahri. After the fighting ends, it is reported that it wasn't any "high value" target in the battle after all. Another, "Ooh! Never mind" moment.

March 21, 2004 The State Department issues a terror alert.

or

On May 10, Bush’s approval rating hit 46%. A week later, Colin Powell tells Meet the Press that he was deliberately misled about WMD information. Powell's aide tries to cut him off mid-air. Newsweek reports that President Bush's top lawyer warned two years ago that Bush could be prosecuted for war crimes as a result of how his administration was fighting the war on terror. Then the White House stonewalls UN on papers about Halliburton’s contracts in Iraq and Captain Crayola testifies before 9/11 Commission and the Senate Armed Forces Committee holds hearings on Abu Ghraib abuses.

Seven days after all this happens, Ridge warns of a major threat of a terrorist attack during the summer.

The fact remains that Bush hasn’t a damn thing to run on except the war on terrorism. One week he’s ranting about how much safer we all are, and then a week later that al Qaeda boogeyman is coming to get us.

Well, George, which is it? Talk about "flip-flopping!"

 

don't you ride the subway mark? will you be this cavalier on the N train tomorrow?

 

"Insurgency is in its last throes."

 

with this thread, you have entered the glynch hall of formal irrelevancy.

 

lol - is that worse than islamic jihadist sympathizer?

 

I lead a charmed life. Heading up to the country house tomorrow for an extended four day weekend. But thanks for the thoughts.

 

too long to post here, but you should read this article from the well known neo-con organ the new yorker before you go:

http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/articles/050725fa_fact2

bottom line, nyc's anti-terror operation is probably far superior to, and certainly operates independently of, the federal system. this warning came from bloomberg, not bush. i'd pay attention.

 

The intelligence came from the FBI. If memory serves me correctly, that's a federal organization, not part of the NYC mayor's office.

Nice try, though!

 

Invading Iraq and creating a multi year long insurgency/recruiting tool/resource drain is exactly what bin Laden wanted, I know this because I am smart.

Therefore, bin Laden wants what you wanted more than what he wants what he said - accordingly, we are red hot and you are cold snot.

 

I'm really not sure how we can withdraw at this point. Iraq would literally descend into fragmentation and chaos. Its somewhat unique in that it is a country that is divided into three major sects. In Vietnam, both the North and South were the same minus some political differences. In Iraq, you have a fledging government barely holding the country together. The Kurds, Shiites and Sunnis all have their differrences and any withdrawal could easily spark further fragmentation.

The country is lawless as it is. There are virtually no Iraqi security forces that can actually do anything and the coalition is managing law enforcement in its entirety. A withdrawal would literally mean there would be absolutely no one to enforce any laws and the result would be outright chaos on a scale that we haven't seen yet. As bad as it is, it still can get worse. Also, Gaza is a pretty good indication of the reaction of various Islamic fundamentalists. They claimed victory after withdrawal and there's no reason why they wouldnt do the same after a US withdrawal. A withdrawal would just create a regional power vacuum that would probably be filled in a more fundamentalist government that would be Iran number 2.

In short, we messed up by invading in the first place but withdrawal really isn't an option right now. Vietnam and Iraq are two different things and sadly we're stuck here for a few more years.

 

Why don't you just speak your mind unambiguously?

 

Can you please extrapolate on this claim? Are we going to resume bombing? Are insurgents in your body count?

Et cetera

 

http://www.ccmep.org/usbombingwatch/2005.htm

This site has not been updated since 02/05 and I can find nary a story from that time period about US military bombings. It all seems to be about insurgency car bombings. Let me know if you find more...

Damn man I thought those insurgents were androids. The way they so callously and deliberately and intentionally kill Iraqi men, women and children I would have guessed they had no feelings whatsoever... just like androids.

You, of course, completely ignore the Iraqi side of the story that wants us there to rout out the thugs and the murderers. Everybody wants the horror to stop but the real question is will a peacable lifestyle be more attainable if the insurgents prevail or if the US prevails. What's your call on that?

 

Sure basso, name calling will make your point since your arguements won't.

 

I thought the bottom line was if we fought 'em over there in Iraq, we woudn't have to fight 'em over here.

Got any tips from GlobalSecurity lately, basso?

I am gonna buy me some more duct tapes today.

 

Uhh, why would insurgents not be in the body count? Death is death.