In Shaking up the Rotation, is Morey Attempting to Force McHale's Hand?

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I'm a great fan of Morey's analytics approach. Unfortunately , he didn't use it to find the best coach available on the market.

 

In his defense McHale is quite impressive when he speaks. Shows great insight and understanding. There just seems to be a disconnect between what he says and what he does.

 

Looking back in hindsight, it looks like 2pat and Morris were getting their value increased with the playtime tbh.

 

What? He used his approach to find his best coach on the market. FO is playing as much of a hand in the rockets play as the coach. That is why Adelman left.

 

What numbers or statistics in mchale's past resume' as coach would suggest he was the best option at the time he was hired. ?

 

I don't know why you are asking me, but Adelman didn't like the fact that F.O wanted a really big say on on-court operations and was slighted by the fact they took so long to extend him. Mchale was hired because he was a good leader to the players and didn't mind the F.O having their way.

 

Morey's approach a.k.a. analytics uses numbers and statistics to find the right players. Mchale had a win/loss record as a coach with the Minnesota timberwolves that leaves much to be desired to put in kindly.

Anyway, here's an interesting article about Robert Parish a.k.a. the chief wanting a high paying coaching job but never getting it because he doesn't have the influence. http://www.celticslife.com/2013/01/robert-parish-bashes-former-celtics.html

 

My point simply is that if we are going to reward people with a high paying coaching position why not let former rockets players like cassell , horry, kenny smith, mario ellie, dream (someone with their heart in the organization to coach the team).

Even Robert Parish can't get a high paying coaching job.

http://www.celticslife.com/2013/01/robert-parish-bashes-former-celtics.html

Robert Parish bashes former Celtics teammates, wants coaching job
Not a good look for all time great and former Celtic Robert Parish in this weekend's Boston Globe. Apparently Parish has sold all his championship rings (We already knew about two of them) and is low on cash.


The Celtics hired him in 2004 for public relations work, but Parish found the $80,000 salary too low. “I want to make it clear, I’m not whining, and the Celtics owe me nothing. But having said that, you would think at least I would have a conversation about a coaching job, since that’s what I want to do.”

Parish, who earned roughly $24 million in 21 years in the NBA, says he needs a job with a substantial six-to-seven-figure salary. “I don’t want to have to start over. I’m not homeless and I’m not penniless, but I need to work.”

While $80 thousand wasn't enough for Parish he reached out to his former All-Star teammates and says they have turned their backs on him.


“People shouldn’t feel sad; they should help me get a job,” said the Hall of Fame center with the deep voice on the other end. “I need a coaching job in the NBA. I’m restless and I need money. ”

Parish, 59, said that Bird and McHale, both of whom have held coaching and front office jobs in the league (McHale is the coach of the Houston Rockets), have done nothing to help him in his quest to return to the NBA, although he says he has reached out to them. He calls his Hall of Fame teammates “acquaintances.”

“In my case, I don’t have any friends,’’ Parish said. “I saw Kevin at an event; he said he was going to call me. He never called. I called Larry twice when he was at the Indiana Pacers; he never returned my call. And not just Larry. Across the board, most NBA teams do not call back. You need a court order just to get a phone call back from these organizations. I’m not a part of their fraternity.”

Bird has a rather different recollection. Traveling, he sent a concise text in response to questions from the Globe: “Robert never called me for a job. Period.”

McHale, for his part, expressed remorse in a voicemail. He said he tried to hire Parish when he was in Minnesota, but “I went back and checked . . . we were actually reducing spots at the time. Then I was let go from Minnesota.”

He says he saw Parish later, when McHale worked for TNT.

“I feel terrible about the whole thing, but I just didn’t have a position,’’ McHale said. “I would have loved to have hired Robert if something would’ve came up.”

When Larry says that, "Robert never called me for a job," one could ask a follow-up question whether Parish called him for money. Parish then goes on to call out Danny Ainge for being "selfish."

“You would think Danny would’ve stepped up and said something,’’ he said. “I think he’s got a little pull with the organization. But I didn’t take it personal. I understood.’’

Parish is pressed on his relationship with Ainge.

He responds by reaching back in time, telling a story about how Celtics president Red Auerbach and coach K.C. Jones once asked him to take fewer shots because Dennis Johnson and Ainge wanted more scoring opportunities. The Chief readily agreed.

“Danny is selfish, even after I made the sacrifice for him and DJ, he still asked to be traded.’’

Talk about the completely wrong way to go about trying to get a job. Also, not too many people will feel sorry for a guy who made $24 million and that wasn't enough. Then quit an $80k job, because it wasn't 6 or 7 figures. And asked if he lamented selling his 3 championship rings, Parish said not really because he rarely looked at them, which would be fine... But then he said he missed his 50 Greatest NBA Players ring the most, which was solely an individual honor. Again, not the best look for Parish in this Globe article. Can't see any of his former teammates who he threw under the bus rushing to offer him a job now, and I doubt other teams will either. Sounds like a coaching candidate that just wants the gig for the salary. It's a shame, since I wouldn't be surprised if the Chief would have made a solid coach.

 

Just because they were former teammates doesn't mean the parish-mchale anaology has any substance. Parrish is a whiny loser that just wants to coach because he has run out of money. Mchale is good at motivating his players and deff wasn't my first choice as coach, I was actually furious at letting Adelman go but you move on. He has made the best of the present situation so you can't really fault him. And to reiterate everything I've said, the most important thing you need in a head coach is the ability to motivate players. The assistant coaches and coordinators are the ones that run most of the plays, thats exactly how Phil Jackson was with tex winters and his other assistants. So you can't really use the small sample size in minny to make the point he wasn't deserving. The F.O / Morey aren't stupid and wouldn't have chosen him just out of thin air especially when you had a HOF coach that went to the finals twice and probably would have had a championship in 2002 had the league not screwed him over in the WCF.

 

Ripped for big picture thinking.

 

It was morey's former association with the Celtics rather than analytics that governed the decision to hire mchale. Had he used his analytics approach instead of personal closeness to the candidate for the position we may have found a better coach. Mchale had just worn out his welcome in Minnesota and would be in a similar situation as Robert Parish had he not called his pal Daryl (former assistant general manager of the celtics working under Danny Ainge).

 

Mchale was a GM for a while, he was the one that drafted KG. Parrish hasn't done anything. I think you are reading into this too much.

 

On your side we have speculation, fantasy and conjecture. On the other side we have Morey. You fail to make any fact based case. Your opinions will never change the fan base, much less have any effect on the Rockets FO or coaching staff. Go ahead, keep banging your head against a brick wall. I hope it feels good.

 

It's just a dispassionate assessment of mchale's credentials as a coach when he was hired. I posted the article about Robert Parrish simply to point out that a lot of former players want to become coaches just for the salary alone.

Now lets read more into it just for fun. Mchale trades KG to the Celtics and Danny Ainge. Celtics end up winning the championship. Danny Ainge has a debt of gratitude to Mchale for facilitating the trade. When Mchale wears out his welcome in Minnesota after many fans were upset at the trade he calls up the favor from Ainge. Danny Ainge then calls up his former assistant general manager Daryl Morey that Mchale wants to coach.

Robert Parrish is right he doesn't belong to their fraternity. He doesn't have the strings to pull.

 

Hahaha. Nice one. now to add to that, don't be surprised if mchale chooses his rotations and substitution patterns not on the basis of merit and fitness but based on who he likes personally. Since that is how he got his job.

 

lol ok. We all have our conspiracy theories, I'll just leave it at that.

 

Hey man its a message board. Lets have fun.

 

Or maybe the Chief isn't getting a job because he is still smoking weed all the time.