1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

In Praise of Tim Duncan

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Sishir Chang, Jun 23, 2005.

  1. AstroRocket

    AstroRocket Member

    Joined:
    May 28, 1999
    Messages:
    11,814
    Likes Received:
    458
    Damn straight. F**k the Spers too.
     
  2. m_cable

    m_cable Member

    Joined:
    Dec 12, 2002
    Messages:
    9,455
    Likes Received:
    73
    Yes he is. C-Webb has one of the most charismatic personalities in sports. Too bad he's a two-faced, whiny, liar.
     
  3. Sooner423

    Sooner423 Member

    Joined:
    May 17, 2002
    Messages:
    5,703
    Likes Received:
    1,997
    and F**k Ginobili. I can't stand the flops. I think I'm watching Stockton and Hornacek all over again.
     
  4. KellyDwyer

    KellyDwyer Member

    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2001
    Messages:
    3,660
    Likes Received:
    86
    Overrated is one thing (and I do think the '04 consideration was beyond silly), but O'Neal's absolutely spot-on as far as character issues go. And a gem for us mugs to deal with.

    Not saying you agree with him, but I can't only do so much with the quote function ...
     
  5. dharocks

    dharocks Member

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2003
    Messages:
    9,032
    Likes Received:
    1,969
    He lied before a Grand Jury about receiving money as a college athlete. I don't really think that that makes him a rotten person, I just think it means he lied before a Grand Jury about receiving money as a college athlete.

    In my eyes, that's really not as bad as throwing punches at fans at an NBA game. Which is what Jermaine O'Neal did. And I don't think he's a rotten person either.

    Neither shows very good judgement, but I really do think that when you just look at it for what it is, attempting to inflict physical harm upon someone smaller than you is, without question, fundamentally worse than lying to save your reputation. Just my opinion though...
     
  6. Davidoff

    Davidoff Member

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2004
    Messages:
    5,643
    Likes Received:
    9
    GOD DAM? SPURS!! " :mad: YOU GO TO HELL, YOU GO TO HELL AND YOU DIE!!!"
     
  7. Beck

    Beck Member

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 1999
    Messages:
    1,132
    Likes Received:
    15
    Duncan was okay in game 7, but 10-27 isn't the performance I expect from an all-time great, in a NBA Finals game 7. Although it was a short stretch, he did take over in the 3rd quarter when the game was slipping away.
     
  8. PhiSlammaJamma

    Joined:
    Aug 29, 1999
    Messages:
    29,969
    Likes Received:
    8,053
    lying in court is very bad thing, because you impact so many other lives when you do it. You either set a criminal free or you send an innocent man to jail. Both have a significant impact on so many lives. This is what the Clintons failed to realize. It's not about the lawyers attacking you, and someone wanting to bring you down, you have to ignore that, and you have to tell the truth, because we the people are all counting on you to do that.
     
  9. VesceySux

    VesceySux World Champion Lurker
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jul 31, 2001
    Messages:
    7,552
    Likes Received:
    234
    WTF? Am I missing something here? Who else could possibly be Finals MVP? Duncan averaged 20.6 PPG (41.8%), 14.1 RPG, 2.1 BPG, and 2.1 APG. For comparison, Manu averaged 18.7 PPG (52.3%), 5.9 RPG, 1.1 SPG, and 4.0 APG. Granted, there were times when Duncan choked, and yes, he wasn't as dominant as before, but without his production, the Spurs lose in 4.

    Look, I'm not a fan of the Spurs myself, but give the man some freaking credit. If you think Horry's 10.6 PPG, 4.9 RPG, 1.0 SPG, and 2.1 APG are good enough for Finals MVP... you just might be a Duncan hater.
     
  10. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2000
    Messages:
    22,895
    Likes Received:
    12,696
    They wouldn't have won it without former rocket "big shot Rob". He is the MVP of the series. Duncan wilted under the pressure.
     
  11. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2000
    Messages:
    22,895
    Likes Received:
    12,696
    Or a maybe a clutch fan!!!!! :D
     
  12. Sishir Chang

    Sishir Chang Member

    Joined:
    Nov 12, 2000
    Messages:
    11,064
    Likes Received:
    8
    Yeah I was referring to the brawl. I don't know that much about Jermaine O'Neal but sucker punching a fan is a huge black mark on any pro-athlete's character.
     
  13. Sishir Chang

    Sishir Chang Member

    Joined:
    Nov 12, 2000
    Messages:
    11,064
    Likes Received:
    8
    Saddly its so.
     
  14. VesceySux

    VesceySux World Champion Lurker
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jul 31, 2001
    Messages:
    7,552
    Likes Received:
    234
    Jesus. Horry won ONE game for them, and lest you forget, Duncan had 26 points, 19 rebounds, and 2 blocks in that legendary Game 5. If the MVP didn't go to Duncan, it would have gone to Manu.
     
  15. PhiSlammaJamma

    Joined:
    Aug 29, 1999
    Messages:
    29,969
    Likes Received:
    8,053
     
  16. Coach AI

    Coach AI Member

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 1999
    Messages:
    7,992
    Likes Received:
    849
    Dunno...Duncan is awesome, but watching this series I never got the impression that he was the catalyst behind the Spurs success against the Pistons - in terms of huge game-altering impact. He got his numbers, but it was odd because this was one instance where it isn't easy to say 'well, they're winning because of Duncan' (which is usually the case).

    It seemed Manu's aggressive style and Horry's big time 3s were the biggest challenge for the Pistons. Not to say they were MVPs either...in fact, I'm hard pressed to say anyone on the Spurs was clearly the 'MVP'....which is likely the very reason it was just easier to give it to Duncan.
     
  17. m_cable

    m_cable Member

    Joined:
    Dec 12, 2002
    Messages:
    9,455
    Likes Received:
    73
    In terms of C-Webb, it's not so much that he lied to a Grand Jury (although that is exceedingly stupid). It's the fact that he went about the whole situation as if he was some unfairly targetted martyr. On and on he would say "the truth will come out" and profess his innocence over and over again with righteous indignation.

    And the way he goes about business on the court. Anytime something doesn't go his way, he walks around with the most annoying "put-upon" scowl. It's as if he's telling everyone in the world, "how could you do this to me".

    And there was that whole business about how the Kings were playing like "suburban kids", instead of kids from the city like him. Except C-Webb never played in the city. He was the one living in the suburbs and going to private schools and pretty much playing like a soft choker.

    Webber is just a two-faced hypocritical liar, and a poser.
     
  18. vj23k

    vj23k Member

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2000
    Messages:
    5,351
    Likes Received:
    46
    Yeah, I thought Robert deserved it, but then I looked up his stats, and it's no comparison. I thought Horry was closer to 15/7, in which case he should've gotten the award.
     
  19. slickvik69

    slickvik69 Member

    Joined:
    Sep 3, 2003
    Messages:
    1,280
    Likes Received:
    1
    The whole Pistons are so annoying. They make it seem as if they are victims to a vindictive society. "Nobody wants us to win. It's us against the world." Every time the referee called a foul on them, they whined to the refs, yet they hammered the other teams with rough play. Against Miami, they gave the Heat no credit, they said they lost to the referees. Billups had this air about him as if he were the next Jordan. Boo hoo I won't shed a tear for the Pistons.
     
  20. ico4498

    ico4498 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 1999
    Messages:
    3,768
    Likes Received:
    1,516
    this gets my vote for "Lame post of the year".
     

Share This Page