How many free throws does he make in the 4th on average in the last 4 years? Not if we're winning championships. What deficiencies does kobe have? He's the most complete player in the game. Thats true, but Kobe is far superior to Tmac. His teams require less improvement than the rockets do with tmac.
Why didn't you reply to where i MADE my point on why he shot poorly in games 1 and 2... IT DOESN'T TAKE A ROCKETS SCIENTIST TO KNOW THAT ROFL games 1 & 2 no rafer Games 3-6 = Yes rafer Can you interpret that? or do i need to make a graph?
Kobe gets special treatment weather you want to acknowledge it or not, did you see that one time at the end of the game where he pushed Deron and he got 2 FT, it was a clear offensive foul and it was IN UTAH. If Kobe is so damn good...why couldn't he do anything w.o shaq...and w.o Pau, hop off his jockstrap dude, all you do is praise Kobe and bag on TMAC. Is Kobe better...yes
Actually, I do recall the play you're talking about. Its the same play that deron williams didnt have his feet set and leaned into Kobe as kobe was making the move. Sorry guy, blocking foul all the way. When you lose shaq and get lamar odom in return, you've enter a quasi-rebuilding mode. Nobody expected them to win a championship. Just like nobody expected the magic to win a title when they had tmac.
um, so you want one guy to do what your pg does and do what he does? so are you saying kobe is not dependent on gasol? b/c his playoff stats this yr >>>> his last 2 years. you want to make your stars' job easier so they can focus on what their main responsibility is. there is a reason lebron is being so easily defended right now b/c he doesn't have a pg. when he goes up against good defensive teams, he struggles. watch some more basketball. there is a reason why you need 5 guys on the floor. each guy has his own task (and thus a different position) . if one guy can do it all, kobe wouldn't need to ask to be traded. or kg. or tmac in orlando.
Dude don't argue with him anymore, after i read the same thing "If he's dependent on rafer he's overrated" i knew this kid was a joke. Probably not even a rox fan but wasting his time, and ours. Give him the solitary treatment
it's hard to find deficiencies when you are winning. but his main one right now is his lack of defensive intensity. he is not trying on that side of the ball one single bit at all in the entire playoffs. whoever he guards is scoring, and the one he guards are scrubs too. lakers require less improvement? dude, they are stacked all over. gasol is a legit 20-10 player. they didn't have that the past 2 years (and they lost in the first round). they got derek fisher, one of the clutchest role players to ever played the game, who actually plays D (you see that when he sits, lakers' defense sucks right? b/c no oen could guard deron). and yea, and their young guys develop tremendously. um yea, his teams don't require more improvement than the rockets lakers are the most complete team right now offensively. um yea, tell me next time a superstar doesn't have to take a shot and his team can still score 30 pts in the freakin' 4th quarter of a game 5 when the teams are tied your dislike for tmac is actually masking what you see of others. kobe is a superior player than tmac and no one is debating that. but the claims you make are quite ridiculous. so you defend kobe for shooting poorly by saying he is a good ft shooter. i can defend tmac shooting poorly by saying he does everything else well (rebound, defend, pass in the playoffs specifically). you nitpick tmac for not stepping up in the 4th of games 1/2 and 3rd quarter of game 6. i can say kobe has only stepped up 2 4th quarters in the entire playoffs in terms of scoring (game 4 v. denver and game 6 v. utah). and let's not even get to lebron b/c i'm sure you'll defend his 32% shooting. tmac can be better and he should be better (i agree with you about ft shooting). but he has defended, rebounded, and passed better than kobe (tmac avg 7 assists with the team shooting 41%. kobe avg 7 assist with his team shooting 50%) in the playoffs. tmac is not perfect, but you make him out to be an average player.
First, his playoff stats havent improved THAT much since last year. His shooting percentages were better last year. Second, if tmac requires rafer in order to be effective, then Tmac is highly overrated. Thats all i'm saying. a lot of lebron's shots are open. he's just missing them. that doesnt mean that boston has good defense. it means he's a bad jump shooter. and i would take delonte west over rafer any day of the week. Tell you what. If you insist on comparing tmac to kobe, i'll start comparing tmac to gilbert arenas. tmac is closer to arenas than he is to kobe.
first of all, he doesn't need rafer to be effective. he just needs guys who can do their job so he doesn't have to do their job. tmac basically did every guy's jobs in the first 2 games. he played PG. he guarded shane's guys b/c he couldn't guard them. he guarded okur and boozer for 2-3 possessions even. that's all i'm saying. if bobby could play PG, then he doesn't need rafer. you get that point? if the lakers don't have fisher right now, farmar would be their PG. are you going to say kobe is dependent on fisher? stars need their role players to play their role. bobby and luther couldn't play PG a lick. that's why having rafer helps so much b/c tmac could do his job, rather than do 2-3 guys' jobs. you're comparing gilbert to tmac? accordin to your argument, arenas >>> tmac. arenas has gotten his team out of the first round i don't care who you compare tmac with. just have your facts straight and be unbiased when you talk about things. i agree with some of what you say are tmac's faults. but please, he played well in the playoffs. you can't even admit that? outside of kobe and paul, he he played better than any other perimeter player in this playoffs. give the man his due. 27, 8, 7. those are great all-around #s. you can criticize his shooting and say he can improve htis and that, but please then also say the man played his hearts out. most rocket fans see that. why can't you?
2008 all defensive first team. You misunderstand entirely. Last year, if we had kobe instead of tmac, we'd have advanced past the first round. In other words, kobe requires less help than tmac. Your parameters are a bit too specific, but there are plenty of teams with multiple stars. Utah, Dallas, Phoenix, Boston, Denver, SA, etc... All these teams can have a star score 0 pts and the team puts up 30 pts. It can happen. The problem is, if kobe is shooting poorly, he'll be aggressive and get to the line. He gets points for the team. Yes, tmac gets defensive rebounds. But that means he doesnt try for the fast break. And his defense intensity comes in infrequent spurts. You can defend tmac all you want, but in the end, kobe will find a way to score. The same cant be said for tmac. Silly me. I thought the 4th quarter was an important period. Guess not. Looks to me like he stepped up all he needed to. The same cant be said for tmac. The assist number is deceiving b/c kobe looks to score whereas tmac will look to pass. And no, tmac has not defended better. And in regards to rebounding, its more effective if kobe doesnt rebound as much. That will allow him to outlet for fast break points. You may not realize this, but tmac almost never outlets after a rebound. He's above average. He's a star player. But he's closer to being average than he is to being a superstar.
paul is all-nba 2nd team? kobe is over battier? it's all reputation buddy. tmac's D in the playoffs >>> kobe's D in the playoffs. how would you know if we had kboe last yr we would advanced? if someone told you if kobe would have a 3-1 lead in the playoffs and ask you would have lose that series? what would you say? i think you would say no but it happened. you can't bring up situational stuff b/c you never know. kobe blew a 3-1 lead. and he choked in a game 7. so no, i don't know if we had kobe last yr we would have won. it's like saying if tmac played with shaq, he would have had 3 rings by now. it's all circumstantial. and again with the circumstance, bring up facts. i never see a superstar go not only scoreless, kobe did NOT EVEN ATTEMPT A SHOT. that's how good his team is. tell me one time any superstar did not attempt a single shot i nthe 4th quarter and his team can score 30 WITH EASE. tmac averaged 9 fts in the utah series, and we all know he didn't get all the calls. i would say that's pretty aggressive isn't it? tmac drove a lot in the utah series. i think you're think about the reg. season tmac. yes, all those points are correct during the reg. season of this year. but i'm referring to the playoffs. tmac's intensity and aggressiveness were great. he put 110% on the floor every game. and tmac is above average? i don't know how to respond to that. if tmac is above average, what's lebron? average? what's iverson, melo, ray allen, pierce, kg, duncan, dirk... barely average? you're making me chuckle.
Tell that to sook. 2-3 possessions and you feel the need to mention it. you're really grasping for straws arent you? Kobe has proven he isnt dependent on fisher to put up numbers. Thats the why he's not a superstar anymore. I dont equate playoff success with a player's caliber. Dont spew your own backwards logic and try to pass it off as mine. I am being objective. Tmac's game is more like gilbert's (when healthy) than kobe's. He did well; he could've done better.
THIS GUY IS A JOKE...DON'T WASTE YOUR TIME ARGUING WITH HIM LOL! HES NOT A ROX FAN SO DON'T TAKE HIM SERIOUSLY, HES A KOBE LOVER SO EVERYTHING HE SAYS HE HAS TO HATE TMAC ON ( HIS PERSPECTIVE ON THINGS) Caps for emphasis
You seem to be living in some fantasy land where the Rockets need to rely on T-Mac in the fourth quarter because of his "clutchness", which is some made up, nebulous, intangible quality. I would say that T-Mac's not bad when he drives to the basket but there are serious questions as to whether or not his health will allow him to do that. Watching T-Mac chuck up bricks from the parking lot in game after game is not my idea of "clutch". Garnett on the other hand is averaging 20 ppg in the playoffs at over 50% shooting on a team where he shares scoring duties with two other heavy hitters in Piece and Allen. Over the season as a whole he converted at 0.539, which is a rate that T-Mac can only dream about. The other thing is that he's unselfish. Duncan and Robinson only worked because they were unselfish? I would say that Yao and Garnett are pretty good in that category as well. You probably have no idea who Ralph Sampson is, but once upon a time he and Hakeem were called The Twin Towers in Houston. So far as Prince goes, I would trade for him if he was as good at the point as he is in his current spot. The PG position and the C position are the two most important spots on the team. If you can get a comparable player to T-Mac that plays PG, or at least a player who runs his role at PG at least as well as T-Mac plays SG, then you pull the trigger because in the end the PG is more critical to the overall success of the team. Billups fits into that category. Finally, when exactly did Yao buckle under pressure? I at least pointed out three games where he stepped up big in the fourth quarter and carried the team. Can you bring up any games to bolster you argument?
HE CAN PLAY WELL WITHOUT RAFER, BUT WELL ENOUGH TO PLAY 1 v 5? You need a pg to do their JOB otherwise why would this be a 5 player game? Your a joke I'm literally laughing at your stupidity right now! I hope your just screwing around with us because to know as little about b-ball as you do... Your a WACKO...and you deserve every single name your going to get beyond this point!!!!
One more thing: T-Mac was real clutch in the fourth quarter in this last series with Utah, wasn't he?
