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In his 'prime' TMac or Hakeem?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by tinman, May 16, 2008.

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Who was better in his prime?

  1. Dream

    90.9%
  2. Tmac

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  1. Kam

    Kam Member

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    i voted for Tmac, though it's not my true feelings.


    it's kinda obvious in the answer.
     
  2. sook

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    Dude...lebron gets wayyyy too much love no way in hell he is even close to that. Ever heard of Pistol Peat? doesn't matter i can name SO MANY better players than Lebron sorry
     
  3. sook

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    What the hell is this troll doing on our board? Get out and go back to the craptors. NO WAY IN HELL does a true rockets fan (eception : antisonic) call his players names like that, the Fact your name is Chris Bosh, whos garbage and has never done anything says enough thanks, bye
     
  4. wekko368

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    ChrisBosh has a legitimate criticism of tmac. You may not like his opinion, but he's entitled to it. Quit acting like a child.
     
  5. t_mac1

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    then he should stop posting like a child and calling our franchise player "t-back" after what he did for the team despite multiple injuries. the criticism is fine, but don't call people names like a child. that's why the response to his post was also childish.
     
  6. sook

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    T-BACK? Are you kidding me? He isn't even a fan, why should he insult our players on OUR boards when it seems like he doesn't know jack about rockets ball. I said it was WRONG the last time he insulted a player (tmac again i think) he does it on a consistent basis we have the RIGHT to tell him to stop acting so juvenile nobody says that about their best player especially after all he did for us.
     
  7. wekko368

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    A lot of people dislike tmac. Whether you like it or not, tmac has earned every nickname he's ever received. It doesnt decrease your fandom b/c you dislike the guy. Hakeem is a basketball icon. So yes, I believe its an insult to hakeem to compare the two.

    "nobody says that about their best player especially after all he did for us."

    seriously, how old are you guys?
     
  8. sook

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    No body said anything about Hakeem compared to TMAC, thats easy so why even bring it up.

    You do that same crap so its easy to see you defending him, wow dude..just wow

    Congrats for you being in the 2% collection of r****ds :rolleyes:
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    Hes earned his every name he has been called"-Wth is wrong with you dude? I have a hard time understanding SO-CALLED-ROCKETS-FANS
     
  9. wekko368

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    Read the thread title. He was comparing the two when you insulted him.

    Being a rocket fan doesnt mean being a tmac fan. I think the rockets would be improved in the long run if we got rid of him now. Does that make me less of a fan? Or more of one?
     
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    Read what i SAID. Me and TMAC_1 had no problem with the comparison he was making, all we ARGUED was his name calling, did you see anything about Hakeem-TMAC in my posts? It is solely about him calling OUR players names, which you just ADVOCATED in your previous 2 posts.

    If you call your own players names, especially after Tracy busted his but for us, then yea its hard for me to acknowledge that you as a fan. Pitiful.
     
  11. t_mac1

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    i meant in what he helped us considering how injured he was this year, despite a lot of people calling him soft, faking it...

    he's the main guy on the rockets and along with yao, most people associate the rockets with him. if you don't think tmac helps the team, ok, say the criticism. name-calling is not going to make your argument sound better. disliking the guy is fine. name-calling shows you that "hate" the guy.

    if you agree that name-calling is fine and then question how old the posters are? really, ask yourself that first.
     
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    Like I said, tmac has earned every single nickname he's received.

    That means you're a *** instead of a rockets fan. Even though were were short-handed, it would be hard for anyone to criticize tmac if he shot free throws well. or if he were more aggressive. or if he made better decisions. or if he consistently played both sides of the ball. But guess what? He didnt.

    I guess you and I are different kinds of fans. For me, a player wearing a rockets jersey doesnt automatically earn my fandom. As a fan, I respect the players that prove they truly want to win. The players the push themselves to the point that their bones break. The players who take significant pay cuts to stay with the team.
     
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    Thats fine. A lot of people probably do hate the guy. The organization pays him 20 million a year and he cant work on his conditioning? His free throws. He comes off as being a "me-first" player as opposed to being a "team-first" one.

    People of different ages have different levels of maturity and intellect. If you guys are as old as I think, then theres no sense in continuing the conversation b/c you're incapable of understanding.
     
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    oh really? a "me-first" player huh? :rolleyes:

    like i said, criticisms are fine. everybody knows tmac has his faults. but please, keep it intelligent and keep it professional. its like talking with a kober hater and he calls him "the rapist" or "the snake." discussions usually don't end up well when you start calling players names.
     
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    Your first point he shot poorly on FTs, yes your absolutely right.

    Second, how was he not aggresive? He was driving even though he wasn't getting any calls.

    Third, he made bad decisions? Are you kidding me? Tracy has one of the top 5 B-Ball IQs in the game today.

    4th- Consistently play on both sides of the ball, did you not watch game 2? He led us in EVERY statistical CAT. and he didn't have enough strength for the 4 qrtr because its hard to be a 1 man team offensively and defensively also shooting down your idea of him making bad decisions.

    5th, any rockets player doesn't earn your fandom? How come i don't see you criticizing luther, bjax, battier, hayes, scola when the way they played wasn't even close to the way Tracy played?

    6th what makes you say he doesn't want to win? This point is the one that truly led me to believe how little you know about basketball. He increased his scoring by an avg of 8 (close to) points in his career, asked to be traded from a team with whom he was "The Man" and scoring champ with, giving up a lot of his game to play with Yao, breaks down in a press conf after a game 7 loss that wasn't his fault and lastly, plays every playoff game with the intensity like it was his first despite he's lost every series.
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    7th, pushing to the point his bones break...um yea dude if you watched the series he was playing on a knee bad enough to have surgery on at that very moment , and is 2nd in this year's playoff scoring only behind Kobe.

    Thats heart.

    But why are you dodging the question on hand? That it is fair to call Tracy names? Your a blind hater
     
  16. Invisible Fan

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    I'm beginning to agree with Moes' sig regarding Tinman.

    Forcing a fight between Legendary Rockets players and Current players isn't fan service. It's trolldom.
     
  17. T.Mcgrady

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    Don't bother responding to Chris Bosh/Wekko - they're the king of unsubstantiated claims when it comes to T-Mac. They compose an infinitesimal portion of this board which attempts to use the farce of calling others a *** (a non Rockets' fan)when they're called out for slandering McGrady. They represent the worst kind of fans and they honestly don't realize it because they're so deluded.

    The vast majority of those here just disregard those types of posts - it's useless responding to these types of "fans".
     
  18. badgerfan

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    Rockets fans put the organization ahead of individual players.

    It really boils down to the difference between old fans and new ones. When a guy's been a fan of a franchise for 20 odd years he's seen the roster go through innumerable changes. If you've been a fan for any length of time it's almost inevitable that you've seen one player that you really, really like get traded away and become the enemy. Anybody who's been a fan for any length of time gives his loyalty to the organization and not the roster, because the roster always changes.

    T-Mac gets a lot of hate that he doesn't deserve but at the same time he also deserves a lot of the criticism that's leveled at him. Personally, if it were up to me, I'd trade T-Mac straight up for maybe 10 other players in the league and I am pretty sure the Rockets would field a better team consequently Realistically though that's not going to happen and thus it's almost inconceivable that the Rockets could get equal value back in a trade.

    What gets me is that Hakeem is truly one of the most dominant players in the NBA ever, on the short list for the best centers to ever play and yet he didn't get 100% of the vote in this poll.
     
  19. macalu

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    QTF. he thinks he's doing the board a service, when in reality its just causing the fans to **** on each other. i'm beginning to miss his previous shtick of posting every google image he can find.
     
  20. crash5179

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    hmmm. maybe...maybe no.
     
    #120 crash5179, May 17, 2008
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