actually when tmac took it to 7 games it was against the eventual champion pistons, and tmac almost beat that team by himself
T-mac never got 2 Bill Cartright Elbows to the face. Nobody sent Mitch Kupchak to take out T-mac. Hakeem still wins as the Rocket who got fouled the most. Yao is working on #2.
Obviously Hakeem? He was just so much better in many ways. Maybe if you compared him to a closer player or something lol.
i think tinman made this comparison b/c tmac and hakeem have been our 2 most prominent franchise players. drexler was obviously not the main guy when he was here. and yao has never been asked to carry the franchise. but i think it should be unanimous hakeem wins. he's a top 5-10 player of all-time of the nba. tmac still has a few years to win something to put himself in the conversation with hakeem a little bit. tmac doesn't even deserved to be whispered with hakeem.
but tinman, you gotta understand tmac has more than done his part in the playoffs. obviously we all can nitpick and say he should have done this and that. but look at the playoffs, you can obviously see teams who are deeper and more balanced offensively wins. we need to surround tmac and yao with better players. we're getting there, and as a result, our team is getting better. now we need to pray for great health and results will come. i think the tmac era should be much better than this, but injuries have played a huge part, not only to tmac but also yao. but i see the potential. as a rocket fan, i don't think tmac has earned his rocket colors just yet. i love and cheer for the guy, but players will only earn true rocket colors if they achieve something special. it doesn't have to be a championship, but make something memorable happen. hopefully tmac will do that in the next few years. i think he's too talented and too good not to win a series (which he will). hopefully you didn't make this thread to clown the guy, b/c i know you're a true rocket fan. let's just appreciate. we all know hakeem is the standard for this organization. i don't think you should compare anyone to him unless they've achieved what he had helped this organization achieved.
i like whomikejames, it was just funny. I give Tmac has due, he's played hard and this year was exceptional. however younger fans, especially the tmac biased ones shouldn't throw Dreams name around like he was just another player in one of these stupid what if scenarios. To me, I already moved Tmac above Yao and Steve Francis for heroics in the Rockets rankings. But to get to that hero status he needs to help our team get further. I know our team is not as talented etc. but heroes step up and do heroic things. thats where you get your fame. we all know he's the most talent shooting guard we probably ever have had. to reach legend status you have do something legendary. the frustrating part is that we know he can do it. but we're still waiting. I know Tmac had an amazing year in orlando, but guess what? I'm not a orlando fan. I could care less if he wins scoring champion. if that makes you happy as a Rockets fan, that's not right. I only care for the glory that Tmac brings us, not a bunch of what if scenarios.
what-if's are the most meaningless thing. what if mcgrady didn't have all these unjuries, where would he be today? what if magic didn't have the hiv and played as long as deke? what if the twin towers lasted a decade, how many rings we'd have? what if yao wasn't injured, are we still playing now? what if grant hill didn't play that first round, he might've been mj ver. 2? what if kobe didn't part ways with shaq? what if horry didn't hit that 3, the kings might have a ring already. etc. and this is just bball-wise. apply this to people's lives, or politics, or history. it gets even more pointless.
i agree with you. i'm a tmac fan based on the makeup of THIS TEAM. i didn't join the board in earlier or else my username would have been about bobby sura . but you gotta understand the "younger" fans don't really know the game of basketball that well. if they take the time to understand the history of this organization, hakeem is the best player to ever wore a rocket jersey. and like you said, tmac is not going to go down as a rocket legend (or nba legend) until he wins. i don't think making it to the 2nd or wcf will really do him any justice. with his talent, he should be playing in the nba finals under the brightest lights. we all see how he elevates his game in the playoffs. but tinman, even kobe, the best player in today's game, couldn't get out of the first round until he gets a lot of help (sans shaq). if we were healthy this year, i think everybody knows we would have advanced pretty far. our team is getting there. sometimes you need some luck and we need luck with our injuries.
THIS IS SO STUPID ROFL. Hakeem is arguably the most dominant center in the game...ever. Tracy is the 2nd best SF/SG in the game today and the best passer out of the top wingman (lebron, kobe etc...) was a 2 time scoring champ but you can't compare him to the Dream. This is a stupid poll tbh. The Dream was gifted and exception due to the fact he could do it all, he had so many moves around the basket. Please, lock
not even remotely close... Dream is arguably one of the top 10 players of all time. Tmac might break the top 50.
a better pole would be when is Hakeem's prime? The Akeem days, or the Hakeem days. He goes from a freak of nature, to one of the most polish post players ever.
Tracy does not have the heart of a champion. Tracy is a greatly talented basketball player that is smart on the court and produces great stats. Hakeem does have the heart of a champion. Hakeem is a greatly talented basketball player that is smart on the court and produces great stats.
Wrong. This is a meaningless thread and it serves no purpose other than bringing out the TOH (Tmac-only-haters) to bash Tmac. Why some people hate our own players that much is beyond me. Please lock this thread.
T-mac fo sho'. i saw Hakeem play from the beginning of his rookie year. as amazing as he is, he was just lucky. we won the championship b/c of role players like pete chillcut and chris jent. guys who elevated their fist pumps and high fives when it came to playoff time. it's not t-mac's fault he's got steve francis...or is it?
i agree, it's definitely meaningless. tinman prides himself on being an "original" but you'd think he's a rookie just from his threads. he talks about how back in the days there were always meaningful discussions on this board. yet, all he does in the GARM is litter it with crap like this.
Does anyone have a signature move anymore? Back in the day all the greats had one. I think its whats keeping the top players today from acheving greatness. All the top players now want to be "all around palyers" that are good at everything. Problem is they are great at nothing. Having a player with an great sinature move impacts the game so much. Defenses have to gameplan against and use so much of their resources to stop it. Hakeem was one of the few that had one. If he wasnt doubled and he recieved the ball in the low post, it was over, count it! Watching Akeem was such a thing of beauty that even when double teamed you felt as a fan that he would find a way to score. You felt he was unstoppable. Im talking about crucial points of the game, times when we despertly needed a basket. Thats a confidence I have never had in TMac. For that matter any other Rockets palyer. Anyone who voted for TMac either never seen Akeem play or just doesnt get it. I didnt even vote its a waste of time.
