You keep forgetting that we don't have a electoral system designed to punish this type of party behavior.
It will be a lot faster and easier for the establishment elites who lean a bit to the right to leave and to try to start their own thing. The problem is, there are so few of those people, they know that they could never effectively start anything.
Like it or not, this is how it will end up getting spun before it inevitably pivots into "witch-hunt" and then "total exoneration".
So, Trump's actions have nothing to do with it? Poor poor Donald? Oh wait, he acts like an ass and gets treated like it, why is anyone surprised? So much wrong here - and full of conspiracy BS - let's just start with the investigation was a REPUBLICAN investigation, it was called for by a Republican (Rosenstein) had a Republican investigator in Mueller, and was finished with a Republican leadership in Barr - and there were many things wrong pointed out like Obstruction, and what was that meeting about for Donald's son with the Russians anyway? Point being - REPUBLICAN investigation. Once again, you excuse Donald and his law breaking ways, they took an oath, they are following the law - they are not going after Donald because he is an ******* - which he is - they are going after him because he broke the law, and it is their duty - just because you are on the other team doesn't excuse your side - Trump brought this all on himself......nothing to do with anything other than that. Poor Poor Donald, he is such a great guy, and staying within the law as a POTUS should - stop making excuses for his malfeasance he brought all of this on himself WITH HIS BEHAVIOR and LAWBREAKING ways..... NO EXCUSES !!! That is for the weak minded. DD
Not proof, but if you look at the sequence of events, possibly even going back beyond just this report, it raises a valid question as to what intent was. An investigation could determine whether it was 'legit' whistelblowing, or had ulterior motives. Normally, I'm not big on shoot the messenger, but I think there are legitimate questions/concerns here, that would also go into whether the report itself was legitimate, or contrived. I'm personally more concerned about that than the actual items in the report. The department of Justice and our intelligence agencies seem to have become politically weaponized, and that's a really really bad thing.
Who cares what the intent was from the Whistleblower - if Trump didn't break a law and ask for foreign assistance on getting dirt on a political opponent none of this would be going on...... DD
Don't fool yourself, that is not the motivation at all. This is purely political. They started the impeachment process before they even saw what was in the report or the transcript. They've been trying to impeach him since before he was elected. It's been their political strategy all along. Duty has NOTHING to do with it, at all.
It is not political to Impeach a President who broke the law - that is their constitutional duty. If he BROKE THE LAW they have to impeach - end of story. Don't like it? Don't break the law. DD
(1) Why? There is at least one big illegal act described in the report. (2) I understand this is going to be an increasing talking point from conservative media, but isn't it just as likely that a bunch of people are trying to do their jobs and uphold the laws of this country? Our POTUS has admitted, and shared evidence, that he was soliciting personal political help from another country. He did this after he admitted on national television, in an interview, that he would not necessarily turn such help over to the FBI (as required) but would "listen to it." I think an increasing and dangerous mistake from some conservatives (not you) is this: confusing "Trump" with "Republican Party." They are distinct entities, if the party will allow it. Just because a government official sees misbehavior from Trump, that does not at all mean they saw something wrong with him as a Republican. Couldn't it be just him, as an individual abusing the oath of his elected office? Not that he wears an R or a D. And please note the POTUS loves this confusion. He's already screaming that the "democrats" and deep state are out to DESTROY THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. When the only investigation and criticism is of him and a handful of supplicants like Fruity G. Not the GOP in any sense. But he would love to convince you that he is the pure embodiment of the GOP and to defend all things conservative, you must sacrifice everything for him. Very clever manipulation from a very clever (and corrupt to the core) man.
It seems very obvious the intent was to shine light on the weaponization of the Justice and intelligence agency and how they were enabling the President. What has come out about this report that you feel is contrived?
The Republicans have a shot at lessening that effect. If they are enthusiastically on board and zealous in their pursuit of the impeachment that can hold it up as proof that they are country first, and pretend they never liked him. There will be some Trump loyalists for a little while that will be mad. But we know that some of those who only became Republican because of Trump and that number have a ceiling. Others who left the party will feel good about returning. If only some get on board and don't seem enthusiastic in doing the right thing they won't get the benefit.
What is that you are on right now? Crack? Fentanyl? LSD? Because if you are unimpaired and really are anticipating anything like that happening, you have truly lost your mind.
Every minute of every day before that implosion is a shot to lessen the impact of the fallout. However, you and I know that won't happen, and the time to cut-and-run for Republicans was long, long ago. They're in way too deep now. There's no going back. They ride or die with Trump. Lucky for Republicans Americans are extremely forgiving, have a very short memory, and otherwise generally don't care as long as they can get their new iPhone.
I suspect you're right. The only thing that might help to fix that would be if they are foresighted enough to see the writing on the wall and get off the Trump Train now.
Not end of story, not even the story. It's all about motivation and intent. They've had motivation and intent to impeach all along. Nothing to do with duty...ever. That's just convenient spin. That's fair, but doesn't change the above. FWIW..even when he did nothing wrong...heck, before he was even President...they were talking about impeaching him. It had nothing to do with anything he did...only about their intent and political strategy. They wanted to get rid of him all along. That doesn't concern you at all? That it's ok to impeach someone just because you don't like him/her? FWIW...that bothered Nadler terribly previously...his sense of duty apparently left in the interim. Just like for all the others. The problem is the people that buy into their spin...enabling them to keep doing it. If they were REALLY interested in breaking the law and duty...why keep turning a blind eye on everything that has been going on on the other side, for quite some time now???? Duty is awfully one sided here...meaning it isn't duty at all. You can buy their spin if you, but that's on you.
Tax cuts and Scotus... Sometimes talk guns, God and gays Do your time, then pack your bags to a desk at fox news...
And get on which train? The one that has been doing similar things, on a far grander scale, for a much longer period of time???
I disagree I think Republicans will turn on Trump with the fury of a woman scorned. They already have no shame and will forget about everything they did to prop him up. Trump is not liked personally within the ranks, I think a lot of people can not wait to pile on.
