No one will work for 8-10 per hour doing hard labor in the sun when they can get the same pay for a job in the air conditioning sitting down. Therefore logically such jobs should pay more. the reason they do not pay more is because of illegals. The profits are going directly in the pockets of the owners of the business. the recent growth of the industry in the last 10-15 years is due to the advance in equipment. Yards can be mowed better and faster by a large margin.
Yeah I don't think you can. Do you know what a commercial mower costs? do you know how many hours it is rated for or how much fuel it burns? do you know how many acres it can mow per hour or which size (and therefore cost) of mower to use for a certain yard? You don't. It is not common knowledge, so my post was not an insult. geez.
Of course it has. How many ZTR's were around 20 years ago compared to now? The hydrostatic transmission mowers and higher HP engines that can go for 3000 hours have changed the game.
i know it wasn't an inult, its still stupid to think someone couldn't figure this out. go online look up how much a mower costs. geez that's so hard. I cut my parents yards, I know how much gas a mower uses. I can figure out how much gas it takes the truck to go from job to job. how much time each job takes, hell I can sit and watch these guys on three jobs and time them. it ain't hard, maybe for you
HAHAHAHAH I seriously doubt you use a commercial mower to mow your parents yard. You don't know anything about it.
I remember when there used to be many African-Americans who were involved in building new homes. Now days in Houston, I see only Hispanics in that industry. I live in a new subdivision, so I see this everyday. It seems that African-Americans have been pushed out of that industry and to the unemployment line.
its the only factor i wouldn't know about and I'm sure it doesn't make that much difference. you are hanging your silly argument on the difference in mowers which anyone can go and research. labor is the key factor unless you prove otherwise
I don't understand what you are asking? I just made a comment on what I have observed in my neighborhood. It seems that Hispanics have taken over an entire industry in this part of the country. Jobs that used to be done by others.
Most of the lawn guys dont use "commercial mowers" for residential houses. Heck, the guys that mow the apartment complex I live in are pushing their mowers. To the other guy, to say ordinary people wouldnt mow lawns for 10 per hour, you're crazy. At 15, I did it for 5 per hour. At 20-21 I did it for 10 per hour.
sorry, I just think there is more to your observation than just what you see. particularly the jobs black people have. I think in the last twenty years you see a lot more blacks in corporate america, in government jobs for the police dept, fire dept, post office, etc. growing up twenty years ago, out of all the black people I know I can think of three off the top of my head in construction jobs. a neighbor did roofing, my jr high bball coach was a contractor, owning his own business. and a couple of others. it would be interesting to research
Casey: I'm not interested in debating the "true" cost of mowing lawns with you because, well frankly, because that is dumb. The back-and-forth between you and pgabs on the subject is ridiculously comical. However, I will state that your opinion has merit - no doubt illegals drive down the cost of labor. However, that opinion has two sides - if you are willing to acknowledge that it drives down the price of said services, you'd naturally have to acknowledge that it simultaneously makes the service more economically attractive, thereby increasing business. My opinion, supported only by anecdotal data, is that this price decrease associated with cheap labor coincided with (or rather provided the impetus for) the explosion in lawn mowing services in my area of town.
bottomline, if you're here illegally, i dont care why you came here for, how many anchor babies you created and how much you're contributing to our economy, your a55 needs to be deported..
Dude, I am sarcastic..... Look, I want to annex Mexico, and get it done in the next week so both of our world cup squads can combine into a true competitor. DD
In theory, this should be very easily testable by looking at the lawn care market in areas with lots of illegal immigrants vs few illegal immigrants. Lawn care is a completely local business, so we should have both types of markets in the US. You could test both whether labor is actually cheaper where there are more illegal immigrants as well as the level of demand.
Maybe prospective illegal immigrants are choosing to move to the safer cities and safer cities usually experience a decline in violent crime?
