IMHO, the growing frustration in America is about MORE than.....

Two questions I can ask right off the bat are:

1. Why did he want a "single Payer" system for HCR? Again, this is an archstone of Progressive agenda.

2. Why is it that SEIU(Labor Union) president has logged the most visits to the White House? Again, this is another archstone of the Progressive agenda.

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2009/10/30/seius-stern-tops-white-house-visitor-list/tab/article/

"One thing is clear: Service Employees International Union President Andrew Stern holds sway at the White House, where he’s listed for 22 visits—the top number on the logs. Visitors in the top 10 also include former Clinton White House Chief of Staff John Podesta, former Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle, National Organization for Women President Kim Gandy, and NARAL Pro-Choice America President Nancy Keenan."

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So, it is reasonable to ask these questions: That's the whole point, to establish whether Obama is a Centrist or a Progressive. Let's NOT focus on Obama for now. Let's "define" what is a Progressive and then we can look at Obama's political philosophy? Fair enough?

 

There is no conflict in my arguments. Why do you keep wanting to take everything out of context? Are you hoping people are too lazy to follow your link to get the whole story?

Here it the whole discussion:
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So the whole point is to establish what are the values and principles of a "group" or "person" and COMPARE the two. Only then, should we use "LABELS" such as Progressive, Liberal, Democrats, conservative, socialist, communist or TEA Partier.

So, let's get back to the issue and define what are the political goals of a Progressive!

 

Ok, now we are talking!

This is a good start, from your link:

"In the United States there have been several periods where progressive political parties have developed. The first of these was around the turn of the 20th century. This period notably included the emergence of the Progressive Party, founded in 1912 by President Theodore Roosevelt. This progressive party was the most successful third party in modern American history. The Progressive Party founded in 1924 and the Progressive Party founded in 1948 were less successful than the 1912 version. There are also two notable state progressive parties: the Wisconsin Progressive Party and the Vermont Progressive Party. The latter is still in operation and currently has several high ranking positions in state government.

Today, most progressive politicians in the United States associate with the Democratic Party or the Green Party US. In the US Congress there exists the Congressional Progressive Caucus, which is often in opposition to the more conservative Democrats, who form the Blue Dogs caucus. Some of the more notable progressive members of Congress have included Dennis Kucinich, Bernie Sanders, John Lewis, Paul Wellstone, and Nancy Pelosi."

Now let's break it down even further to some of their core principles:

What are Progressive's stance on Labor Unions and Health Care Reform?

 

I am not ignoring you. I addressed your first volley, but, it will take a lot of time and a bit of research to find supporting documentation to address all other concerns. Also, if I start back down the original discussion track, then this current and less polarizing debate will be side tracked. (And, very likely, that may be your goal—but I will give you the benefit of the doubt.)

The solution may have to be to start a new thread to discuss the change in course my discussion detailed in Post # 139 as quoted below:

 

I have no problem with your goals as a Progressive. It's not like a Progressive is EVIL on anything. I just respectfully disagree with your political goals.

Since, you advocate making conservatism ideology obsolete, how would you define the values of a conservative? What is it actually that you wish to make obsolete?

I want to understand your anger with conservatives. You never know, I may agree with some of the issues you bring up.
After all, I am a minority that has dealt with racism and double standards my whole life.

However, I have separated racism from conservatism. My own native country of India is very Conservative. You ever watch a Indian movie, there is no kissing even.

 

This may be shocking to you, but I haven't listened to talk radio in years. I am a member of audibe.com and listen to (non-political) books on my iphone while driving.

My values are based on mainstream Christian principals--which this country was founded upon.

So stop derailing this thread by “ass-u-me-ing” that I am just spewing rightwing talking points and focus on the straight forward issues that I have brought up.

 

Sure, if you are referring to my "show me past thread comments inquiry that is fair and balanced", that's an easy one:

Show me a thread from the past, where both sides of issues regarding conservatism, vs. liberalism and more specifically the "extreme-limit agendas" of both sides were discussed in a civil way--without a lot of hateful "one-liners" and derogatory labels being spewed to derail the thread.

If this is not what you were refering to, then point the thread out to me--so I can address it.