Like i told u before coaching and an actual pg matters. Now sit and watch him get better under a proper environment. If we still had silas green would have never made this jump on the defensive end. His efforts is leading to team success, it would be nice for him to score more efficiently but baby steps.
I've never suggested that coaching doesn't matter, but there's a limit to what it can do. I'm very happy that he's improved defensively to being merely bad, but unless Udoka can get him to also be an efficient scorer, it won't matter. An inefficient, streaky scorer who is mediocre to bad defensively isn't a starter. He's shown absolutely no improvement when it comes to that.
It's only been 10 games. He went from in your own words worst defenders to kind of bad. That's only 10 games under ime. Now give green a full season under an actual coach with an actual pg and he will b better. Having silas as his hc really set him and Jabari smith development back something u kept denying and accusing folks of coping/making excuses.
I know, I know, he's only 19 years old and he's still a rookie, you have to wait at least 20 years before you can expect ANY real improvement on offense. My point was that what we've seen thus far in his 2+ years in the league is pretty bad, he could turn it all around and morph into a competent player, but the clock is ticking....and excuses about bad coaching or whatever else won't matter if he's still the same player he is right now at the end of the season. He'll be 22 and a 3 year NBA vet at the end of this year, if he's not better, the Rockets need to start looking at other options at the starting SG spot long term.
Like I told u before the 2 years of green shown flash but his development was stalled bc he was put in a sht position with an incompetent coach in silas and a sht pg in kpj. Now just wait and see. U like to make imaginary deadlines to make a stance that green will never improve to prove your point. While clearly we can see actual improvement for green under an actual coach/pg something u vehemently denied will happen. He's already a better player in 10 games than he was his last 2 season, that's progress. Making an imaginary deadline to prove your point while we are trending upwards is stupid.
I dont buy that everything is Silas fault narrative. Sure somethings are, like reading the defense, playing defense, vision etc have improved under ime. But Sengun has shown significant improvement in the same 2 years, especially with polishing his scoring game. It's entirely up to Green and not his coaches to improve his 3 point shooting and finishing layups at the rim. He bricks way too many open jumpers for a shooting guard
Oh I think everyone is well aware of the excuses people make for him being terrible his entire young career thus far, but I think we also know that only suckers would legitimately be fooled by that BS so I just moved past it. Yes, after 153 games, he's now a bit better defensively and about the same offensively as he was day one based on the first 10 games of this season....so he's overall still a really bad player, but I guess you can call that "progress" if you really want to, but as I said, the time for him is running out. He'll need to prove he's worth a contract extension at some point and right now he's simply not worth one.....that's not an "imaginary" deadline, it's a very real one. I'm not saying you should give up on him, but in a few months he'll be 22 years old and still as raw as a day one rookie a lot of the time....the hope that he'll randomly turn into a completely different tier of player has an expiration date.
Sengun has prior experience by playing a professional league and winning mvp. He was able to improve regardless of silas incompetence. His transition into becoming a better player was a lot smoother bc of it while Everybody else suffered. It's all about context
You and I view him the same until a few weeks ago. He has shown to be coachable and willing to play team basketball. That is more than I originally expected. The deadlines are real and he hasn’t hit the milestones, yet. But it’s trajectory is better than last season. we will watch our team - Go Rockets!
I'm still waiting for at least 20 games this season to get the first significant sample, but he was needing a "3rd year leap" and thus far there is no signs of that. While I have seen some things I like, the problem really is expectations compared to actual performance. If Sengun was the #2 pick in his draft and Jalen Green was a mid first round pick, I think things would be very different. Sengun would be living up to that draft spot and we'd probably be okay that a mid first round pick looked like a future bench role player.
This is why KPJ's thing hurt us as a team, we don't have a backup or counter or competition for Green, maybe Cam some day but not yet. DD
If I could choose one thing for Jalen to work on it would he handles. 50% chance that ball is going 30 feet somewhere when he dribbles.
I believe strength and playing with contact in the paint is still an issue with Jalen. The data shows he has been getting into the paint and restricted area and he has been getting fouled a lot. His numbers in terms of FGA and getting fould are similar and in some instances better than some of the top players in the league but his FG% in the paint especially inside the restricted area is lower. All the top guys including Fox, Booker, Kyrie, Dame are dominant in the paint. He needs to increase his efficiency in the paint and this may be due to his lack of physicality.
Oh, stop. Getting rid of KPJ was addition by subtraction. Dude was dragging down the whole locker room and bogging down the offense and making it okay for Jalen to maintain bad habits on both ends. Now that he's gone you can tell Jalen is working on tearing all of that garbage out of his game and playing team basketball. Doing that while being a high-end scorer is a work-in-progress. There were a lot of bad habits to get rid of and it's going to take some time and will sometimes be ugly.
Wasn’t all his fault. He was fouled by Kawhi late which resulted in TO. There were a lot of mistakes in the game including Tari’s bad pass resulting in a 3 and Tate’s foul along with poor shooting from several players including Brooks. Don’t forget Sengun’s 6 TO.
Don’t forget Sengun turned the ball over 6 times last game. Green avg 2.3 TO per game, which is up there with best guards in the league. Fox 2.2 Dame 2.7.
I'm not much of a Green fan but the fact that he he lost to a team with Kawhi Leonard, Paul George and James Harden (and to a far lesser concern Russell Westbrook) doesn't put much worry in my mind about his development. Those are elite players who REALLY needed a win and just barely got it. Says a lot about this team.
He is still learning on where to fit in as the dynamic of the team has changed with FVV and Sengun dominating the ball along with Brooks. When to shoot, when to pass, when to go make a play for team mates etc. And he has shown in growth by helping the team win in other ways than scoring. He needs to fully discover his role on this team. He will figure it out. Need time. But one area he needs to improve to be great as I said was paint scoring especially in RA.
