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I'm not defending the Mario Williams pick....

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Mattj, Nov 11, 2007.

  1. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    The whole point of my post is that it seems a number of posters (not saying you), seem to think that Young single handedly saved the Titans' season when it was obviously a total team effort. He had some poor games that his team was able to win inspite of him.

    Based on the Titans entire season, they won as a team. Young was 8-5 as a starter. Compared to 0-3 that was an outstanding record, but football doesn't give wins and losses to the QB. Young had a tremendous amount of help.
     
  2. blackistan

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    He still wins games though
     
  3. hieuytran

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    the titans win inspite of vy not because of him...

    vy = rafer
     
  4. DonkeyMagic

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    he does control the tempo of the game
     
  5. Icehouse

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    I agree, it was a team effort, but he heavily contributed to that effort. I think pre Vince you had a QB making mistakes, that couldn't make any big plays. Post Vince you had a QB making less mistakes, that could occassionally make a big play..hence the difference in wins. It's not all on him but don't say (not you) things suddenly started to happen that hadn't happened in two seasons at the same time he got in the lineup (i.e. he was lucky and dismiss his impact).

    I think a rookie QB making few mistakes and big plays (some which lead directly to wins i.e. the game in Houston) is pretty solid, especially considering how many rookie QB's are complete disasters in their first few years. I watch games that feature tons of QB's that just never get it (we just had one in Houston).

    And every QB needs help to win. Manning lost all his offensive studs and threw 6 int's last night. He just relied on his RB's and defense to win a SB and some consider him the best in the game.
     
  6. Another Brother

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    what the eff is a scandalfrog?



    ...sry carry on.
     
  7. SmitingPurpleEm

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    Trent Dilfer started on a SB-winning team.
     
  8. BetterThanI

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    Did ya ever clap when a waitress falls and drops a tray of glasses?
    And ain't it fun to watch figure skaters falling on their asses?
    Don'tcha feel all warm and cozy watching people out in the rain!
    That's...
    Schadenfreude!
    People taking pleasure in your pain!

    Watching a vegetarian being told she just ate chicken
    Or watching a frat boy realize just what he put his d!ck in!
    Being on the elevator when somebody shouts "Hold the door!"
    "No!!!"
    Schadenfreude!
    "F@*k you lady, that's what stairs are for!"

    Straight-A students getting Bs!
    Exes getting STDs!
    Waking doormen from their naps!
    Watching tourists reading maps!
    Football players getting tackled!
    CEOs getting shackled!
    Watching actors never reach
    The ending of their oscar speech!
    Schadenfreude!

    The world needs people like you and me who've been knocked around by fate.
    'Cause when people see us, they don't want to be us, and that makes them feel great.
    We provide a vital service to society! You and me!
    Schadenfreude!
    Making the world a better place...
    To be!

    S-C-H-A-D-E-N-F-R-E-U-D-E!
     
  9. KingCheetah

    KingCheetah Atomic Playboy
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    That is why he is headed for the Hall of Fame when he retires.
     
  10. The Cat

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    So why not trade Andre Johnson for Justin Gage?
     
  11. Mr. Clutch

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    Not a big enough sample size for Gage?
     
  12. The Cat

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    Gage went to Mizzou, that's all the sample size he needs. ;)
     
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  14. Rocket River

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    Let's Rank the teams
    New Orleans, Houston and Tennessee

    Offensively .. the TEAMS Rank this way
    New Orleans has the most offensive Talent
    Houston has better receivers than Tennesseee
    but Tennessee has better running backs.
    1. New Orleans
    2. houston and Tennessee tied

    Defensively
    Tennesee is far superior
    Texans IMO maybe as good if not better than New Orleans
    but with Dunta out .. that probably changes

    VY is working with a superior defense, good running backs and sh*tty receivers
    Bush is working with a decent overall team. probably the best TEAM.
    Mario is on a good defense.

    As for as support around them to maximize their best ability
    IMO VY having the worse receives is a major hampering affect on him.
    Bush has the best supporting case . . good line. . good QB . .Good Receiver
    Mario has decent support. but it is young. Okoye, Ryans.

    Being a top pick automatically means u not going to the best of the best'

    Rocket River
     
  15. msn

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    The defense has also been left on the field a little too much lately, probably due to the disintegration of our running attack. Never thought I'd say it, but man, I miss McKinney.
     
  16. Hey Now!

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    it's one of the worst secondaries in football, and that was BEFORE dunta's leg fell off. i wouldn't term the houston defense "good."
     
  17. Desert_Rocket

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    Titans will not make the playoffs.
     
  18. tulexan

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    Except for whoever gets picked by the Patriots with the Niners' first round pick.
     
  19. Icehouse

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    That is true, but line play has been dissapointing as of late. No pressure on the QB....
     
  20. weslinder

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    People always talk about the line making the secondary better or worse, but the converse happens, too. With few exceptions, it takes time to shed a block and get into the backfield. When a QB can hit his first read, the DL doesn't have a chance to get into the backfield.
     

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