an OK year? That's freaking hilarious. He is having a CRAPPY year! A phenomenal 1st season? his qb rating was 66 and had more Ints than TDs. slightly biased, are you?
Not picking on you, but I don't know where this myth about Mario not showing emotion and intensity in every game is coming from. If you watch him, he brings it EVERY SINGLE PLAY. Just because an O-lineman takes you out of the play (which happens more often than not to even the best DE's in the history of the game) doesn't mean the DE takes plays off etc. It's kind of like saying a batter "takes plays off" when he strikes out, or a basketball player "takes plays off" when he misses a 3. No DE is going to be in on every play. BTW, Mario was hurt all last year. But you'll never hear him admit it. That's just the kind of player he is.
Heres a nice little tidbit I came across in a Q & A on Jaguars.com with the Jaguars senior editor Vic Ketchman. Always nice to know what the enemy thinks. http://www.jaguars.com/news/article.aspx?id=6599
or like saying running back got negative yardage on a run or a QB missing wide open receivers....i'm just saying.
Not biased, just giving him the benefit of the doubt, thats all. As I tend to do with everyone, even for Mario last year. Vince had a good year for a rookie, and now Mario is tearing it up this year. All I'm doing now is trying squash all the bickering going back and forth, which will never happen is my guess, but im going to try. When someone has a good game, let us celebrate them and not tear down the other. When someone has a crappy game, criticize the hell out of them without bringing anyone else into the argument. On the other hand, it is pretty fun to read all of this. Maybe I should go back into lurk mode and be entertained at work reading everything.
I'm not saying that's what you are doing. I'm commenting on the constant linkage between the 2 as if it's some sort of zero sum game where one guy can't be considered good unless the other guy sucks. I can understand if some folks here are getting great pleasure from VY's struggles right now - it's just that I am not one of them because I'm not that focused on Young or the Titans. My football focus is on the Texans and Cowboys (to a lesser extent). Football fortunes can be so fickle. Last year at this time it was VY's star that was shining brightest while MW's was very dim. This year, their situations are reversed. It's entirely possible that come next year, VY's play could eclipse Mario's once again. Then what but more importantly what does that prove or disprove if the Texans don't move up in their division? The Carr thing borders on irrationality to me. I just cannot fathom how the fact that Carr's career is in tatters makes one feel better about a Texans' loss particularly when DC had nothing to do with said loss at all. You say that is not the case but if that's so, then why are Carr's problems constantly being brought up here before, during and after Texans' games then? It's almost as if it's become a personal issue with Carr and I just don't see why it would be more personal about him vis-a-vis Casserly or Capers who were far more responsible than Carr was for the football mess Kubiak inherited (at least to me). As for MW, that was the most complete game he's played since he was drafted. Now all he needs to do is to bring like that every game from now on and it will be all goodness and light for him. But I still stand by my position that while he was definitely a round one pick, he shouldn't have been the top pick in 2006. Nothing against Mario, it's just my personal philosophy on drafting players.
Name one DE in the history of the NFL that has averaged 3.5 sacks per game. Name one player in the history of the NFL that has averaged 1 sack per game. So who should have been the #1 pick in the 2006 draft? If not Mario, please do tell, who? We now know that it shouldn't have been Twinkle Toes in New Orleans and we also know that that it shouldn't have been our Lord and Saviour, hollowed be thy name, in Tennessee.
i was about to ask the same question. can't wait for the answer. actually, i'd like to know who he thought should have gone number 1 without hindsight. but now that there's hindsight, i don't see how he could justify anyone else being number one.
So it's okay for you to harp against C&C as though it was personal, but it's not okay for anyone else to do the same with David Carr. Gotcha.
fair enough. but saying VY is having an "OK" year is just not accurate, nor is saying last year he was "phenomenal". But people will always fight. The crazy VY fans will always force texans fans to defend mario because he is a texan. I like VY alot, but the credit he gets is way overboard
No chagrin on my part and no crow. I wasn't one of the people calling him a bust and I never was one of those folks squealing about VY. I simply disagreed with his being drafted so high and I wanted him to start playing like a top pick only I wanted to see him do it last year. Let me explain it this way so that you will understand: Kubiak & McNair didn't draft him no. 1 because he was the best player in that draft. Nope, he was drafted primarily because of monetary specifically contract reasons. So I was never onboard with why they did what they did because it did not involve a football reason and the fact that 18 months later, Mario has come on won't change what I felt at that time nor continue to feel about what went down with the 2006 draft. Now, I've already said that would be very nice for Mario to get to Hawaii so I don't understand why I have to eat crow (that would be Richard Justice who publicly called him a bust in print and on the radio but is now jumping up and down in line to kiss Mario's ass). But answer just one question: Let's say that Mario does get to the Pro Bowl but in the process, the Texans end up 7-9 or 8-8 and out of the playoffs and we get to watch Jacksonville & Indianapolis in the playoffs. Would his getting to Honolulu make you feel any better? Because it sure won't do that for me as my focus is on the TEAM and not on vindication for past personnel decisions. Even Mario himself understands that winning and getting into the playoffs is more important based on his post-game interview last night with Deon Sanders.
So C&C should not be held responsible even though they are largely responsible but Carr should be villified for their actions? What kind of logic is that? BTW, it's not personal for me with them but it IS with Bud Adams.
Without all the injuries and WITH MARIO the Texans were headed to the playoffs this year (still a chance).....and would have been peaking nicely.That's really the measure isn't it. 10 - 12 year window
The myth came about during draft analysis. It may have been just one of those knocks you have to find about prospects (VY-throwing motion, Bush-running style, Mario-motor, etc...). I think it stemmed from the fact that Mario got a bulk of his sacks in a 3-4 game span during his last season in college. I believe it was something like 10 sacks in 4 games, so I guess people felt he took some of the other games off. There was also rumblings in the Chronicle last season about Mario taking water breaks between every snap during practice and stuff like that. He's been an absolute beast the past 5 games though and IT IS FREAK'N AWESOME!!
Come on, Hillboy. Why do you keep raising the bar? The better Mario gets, the higher you raise the bar. Now, you are saying that Mario leading the AFC in sacks (remember when you and others ONLY judged him by his sack numbers???) isn’t a big deal unless the team makes the playoffs. As if the reason the Texans won’t make the playoffs this year has everything to do with the fact that Mario isn’t averaging 4 sacks a game and nothing to do with the unprecedented amount of injuries (we’re 5-2 when AJ plays, btw) we’ve suffered. You’re losing all credibility now. Why can’t you just admit that taking Mario was the right thing to do?
You act as though Carr is merely a victim of C&C, when the truth is, both sides are at fault. C&C had their "b****fest" day of glory here on the BBS (in which you were probably the "Grand Marshall"), and now, so will Carr. Eventually, the anger, b****ing, and moaning will subside, like it has for C&C. So, please, get off your hypocritical high horse, give it some time, and stop f***ing around with people's catharsis. Or do I have to dig up posts of you doing essentially the same thing with the old Rockets management that you're now accusing people of here?
