considering you can't spell the test name correctly, maybe you need to refrain from exposing the weakness between his ears and concentrate on yours.
my problem with schaub is that i don't think he'll ever be worth the 2 picks; i think kubiak overpaid for him. nothing about him screams "superstar!!!!!!!!" he looks destined to be an average, as good as the team around him QB; and as i've said often, nothing wrong with that on the whole.
ric- you keep throwing out these David Carr stats to prove that he really wasn't a bad QB the first few years we had him, but I would be curious to see what his rating and stats were through 3 quarters every game. IIRC, Carr was famous for having a pretty bad game then he would lead a great drive in the last quarter when the game was already over...which made his stats look decent but was a bad indicator of his overall performance Just curious to see what his stats were if those types of games were excluded
but he saw superstar in Carr? So earlier were you saying that people who correctly identified that Carr sucked are lazy, but people that were wrong about his ability are correct????
Then read slowly....there is also ample evidence to suggest that they have picked a QB (since 3 projected studs were in that draft) if they didn't already have one they "believed in". Any "evidence" that you or I can provide is all speculation and heresay. Read slowly....yes, when you potentially overpay for a less projected player (i.e. not a franchise QB) one year later. If it cost them nothing cap-wise then they got a break. You yourself think they overpaid for Schuab. So we have the owner on record saying if not for Carr they would have picked Vince? Twist his words whichever way you like. Neither of us knows what he truly meant...all we can go by is what he said. Again, read slowly...even in 2004, there were tons of people saying Carr was a garbage QB that would never lead this team anywhere. His stats were ok in his last season (didn't he have a record game for completions or something like that) but his intangibles have always been garbage. The cries of him not being a leader, bad decision making, poor pocket presence and lack of big play ability have ALWAYS been there. And even if you want to keep hanging on his "great" 2004 season, by the time his extension came up plenty of folks thought he was garbage, and they were right.
this is EXACTLY what i mean about perception. when schaub and the texans fell behind the colts 27-10 through the first 3Qs of their week 3 meeting, with the 7 points being supplied by jerome mathis, no one termed the late rally "insignificant" or "meaningless." no, we "rallied;" "kept it close;" "played our hearts out"... seriously, go back and read the coverage of that game. had it been carr.... as for carr, what a silly notion - if you think there's ANY chance his #s were inflated by blow-out 4Q garbage times, YOU go look it up and report back to us.... i think you're practicing selective memory.... i didn't say that; never, nowhere. kubiak's system is built on the running game with the QB, more or less, tasked with not making mistakes. finding a game manager shouldn't cost you two 2s.
the titans are winning despite of VY... their wins were due to their defense... grossman took the bears to the superbowl last year and only started 8 games before last season...he had 23 tds to 20 ints...and ppl were still calling for his head because they were winning despite of his play...same goes with vy.. vy and bush are 2 of the most overrated over hyped players in the league
no, there's actually NO evidence to suggest that. none whatsoever. his last QB in denver was jake plummer; he adopted david carr; he traded for matt schaub; he's passed on young, leinart, cutler and quinn in the two consecutive first rounds - that's a fairly significant trail of evidence that he prefers a QB who's been in the league over a rookie. how???? replacing carr puts you in a bind REGARDLESS of when you do it. period. these two thoughts have no relevancy to one another... none. honestly, what else would you expect him to say to her? seriously. it was a nice, diplomatic thing to say to someone who probably wasn't your biggest fan. carr did have issues - most third year QBs (especially those playing on expansion teams) have issues. those who thought that made him "garbage" were morons. as for those morons eventually being "right" - you know the story about the broken clock, right?
When did the Broncos have a chance to draft a franchise QB (i.e. top 3 pick)? I didn't realize Kubiak was over the draft if Denver. They already made the Schuab trade prior to Quinn falling in the draft (when no one expected him to fall that far anyway). Is this your evidence? Sounds like speculation to me, which is exactly what I said we both had. My speculation....they passed on 3 QB's because they had one they believed in. If they didn't have one then I think they would have picked a QB. Neither one of us knows. Um, not when you have the #1 pick in the draft and 3 solid QB prospects are sitting there for the taking. They had a chance to dump Carr and they chose not to. They don't, but their whole handling of the Carr situation (choosing to extend him and not drafting a QB, cutting him a year later, and overpaying for a worse prospect) is quite relevant. That's a significant blunder.... Again, if that is the spin that you want to put on his comments then go right ahead. Neither one of us knows his true intentions. All we know is what he said.... How are they morons when they were right? Some people could see the things Carr was not capable of doing. Some could tell he was damaged goods and had no presence in the pocket. The only people that look mornoic are the ones still defending him and the teams decision to keep him (even though they tried to correct their error) after he left and continues to suck. Again, HE CONTINUES TO SUCK.
If you thought Carr was bad, you're a moron. It was a good decision to extend Carr. Ric, I have no idea what the hell you're watching on Sundays.
No sh*%.... You believed in Carr...it's cool man. We all make mistakes. The team believed in him too....
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Extending Carr for three years was a mistake and I even thought so at the time, but extending him for a year was not a crazy notion.
Alright, Im tired of reading about Carr. Ive had too much of him for one day. Ric, Im interested in your analysis of Mario and what you think of him.
Well the difference is Schaub actually knows what he's doing out there. Carr was really lost, had terrible footwork, got sacked because he held the ball too long, did not throw the ball downfield, etc. So even though Schaub can still lose (shocker for you I guess) he is still far more competent if you watch the games.
