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I'm itching to vote for a Democrat

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by giddyup, Jan 22, 2004.

  1. mrpaige

    mrpaige Member

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    I got 100% Kerry for some weird reason. Edwards came in at 90%

    You'll never guess who was #2 on my list.

    Bush was 49%.

    Since I'm more liberal on the social stuff (abortion, gay marriage, etc) and my concerns about things like the Patriot Act, etc, I can see where Bush wouldn't seem like the candidate for me.
     
  2. Batman Jones

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    mrpaige: I'm pretty sure everyone gets 100 for someone -- I think it's a relative sliding scale that way. Here's mine:

    Kucinich 100
    Sharpton 93
    Kerry 86
    Dean 82
    Clark 79
    Edwards 76
    Lieberman 66
    Bush 2

    I really can't imagine how Bush got 2 instead of 0. Nothing else there surprised me.
     
  3. DonnyMost

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    That test kind of surprised me.

    I got 100% Kerry, followed closely by Clark.. with Dean, Lieberman and Bush rounding out my bottom 3.
     
  4. AroundTheWorld

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    Wow, 100 % Kucinich and Kerry. Good thing I can't vote, I always thought I would probably vote Republican if I were American :D.
     
  5. AroundTheWorld

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    100 % is so wrong, though, when I look through it issue by issue, there are plenty of cases where I disagree with these two candidates!
     
  6. Batman Jones

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    Jackie:

    100% doesn't mean you agree with everything -- only that they were the closest to your views. Sounds like you're not the Republican you thought you were.
     
  7. mrpaige

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    I just wouldn't figure Kerry to be the top candidate for me. I knew it wasn't going to be Bush with all the abortion, death penalty, etc. questions, but I didn't think Kerry would be the guy to emerge from my answer sheet.

    And I truly didn't expect Al Sharpton to be #2.
     
  8. TheFreak

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    I'm a little surprised by that Max:

    Edwards

    Appoint Judges Who Will Outlaw Abortions Strongly Opposes
    Outlaw "Partial Birth" Abortions Strongly Opposes
    Outlaw Abortions Except for Rape/Incest Strongly Opposes
    Parental Notification for Minors Under 18 Somewhat Opposes
     
  9. mrpaige

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    Or maybe it's the President that's not the Republican. :)
     
  10. AroundTheWorld

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    Good point.
     
  11. thadeus

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    Given that it's pretty unlikely for anyone but Bush to get the electoral votes of Texas, I usually vote independent with the goal of helping the independent candidate score a high enough percentage of the vote to be included in the next election's televised debates. I believe 5% of the total popular vote is the threshold.

    As it stands now, the debate committee is decidedly not non-partisan, as it claims, but bi-partisan. Including a third party in the debates will increase the audience for that candidate, and I think an expansion of parties in the federal government will be very beneficial for the health of the country: and it will give the voter more realistic choices instead of having to pick between a Democrat and a Republican who may both be unsatisfactory.

    It's unfortunate that my vote won't go towards electing the candidate who I believe is most fit for the job, but there are still other worthwhile goals that one can have for one's vote. I vote independent for the above reason, and also to show my dissatisfaction with the current dominant parties.

    (I will admit though, as much as I believe the conservative ideology would be destructive given free reign - If McCain had run for president in the last election, I definitely would have voted for him. He's about as honest as a politican can get, and he actually believes what he says instead of just saying what he believes will get him elected. It's a shame that the Republican brass didn't think he could beat Al Gore in an election - but, of course, George W. Bush couldn't beat Al Gore in an election either.)

    If Bush's actions have finally convinced you that he's not worthy of your vote, but no Democrat allies closely enough with your own beliefs - vote independent! Even if you don't have a particular independent candidate you like, voting independent can help to increase the candidates you can choose from in the future, and one of them may be exactly what you're looking for.

    There are many shadings of liberal and conservative, and a spectrum of idealisms that don't fit either category. The severely limited Democrat/Republican oppositional style of viewing politics does not even touch on the true diversity of political/social viewpoints among Americans.
     
  12. giddyup

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    I took that quiz and most closely aligned with Bush-- no surprise.

    1. Bush: 100%
    2. Liberman: 97%
    3. Kerry: 97%
    4. Edwards: 94%
    5. Dean: 86%
    6. Clark: 83%
    7. Kucinich: 75%
    8. Sharpton: 74%

    Why are they relatively bunched up?
     
  13. giddyup

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    Can someone tell me why an embargo on Cuba is still important? It has been in place for 40 years and so has Castro... What's the point? Kramer wants his cigars. :D
     
  14. mrpaige

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    I'm not sure why it's on the list of issues, especially.

    Personally, I say get rid of it. One of the things that brought down the Soviet Union was McDonalds and Pepsi. Maybe capitalism can bring down Castro, too.

    Plus, Castro can't dislike us too much, we named a street after him in San Francisco.
     
  15. giddyup

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    I don't think that Edwards is really that highly thought of in general. Most think of him as a political opportunist. There was a highly critical article about him in last Sunday's paper. I tried to find it and post it but couldn't. The gist of it was that this guy has barely stepped on stage and doesn't merit any leading roles.

    The last national election cycle when he was not up for re-election, he had signs posted everwhere with his name emblazoned over an American flag poster. He wasn't even running for election; he was just keeping his name in front of the voters at a time when everybody was looking.

    I like Kerry okay. Clark does nothing for me. Ditto Dean. Liberman leaves me cold, yet I align pretty strongly with him. I know him from Imus in the Morning. He turns me off.

    I expect leadership and fair-mindedness from the President of the US. He is the chief executive after all.
     
  16. giddyup

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    One of my theories about how to win over Iraq or Afghanis is to build DisneyDesert. A little Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck would go a long way to reducing anti-American sentiment... at least in the upcoming generation.

    It would be too inviting a target for terrorists though and that would be a huge tragedy.
     
  17. Deckard

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    This is one of the most insightful comments I've read here in a long time. I don't know if you were more than half serious, if that, but Bush doesn't fit the profile of a Republican, at least of 80% of the Republicans I know.

    Republicans, the middle-class Republicans who are conservative on some issues like defense and a balanced budget, but not far to the right and/or driven by the "religious right" agenda of the Christian Coalition and it's ilk, and moderate on others... whether it be abortion rights and the like for some and/or believeing that there are social programs that serve a purpose other than being punching bags for the latest sound-bites... those Republicans that don't like to be pigeon-holed on the issues are the great majority of the Republicans I know and have met over the years. In short, regular middle-class Americans who are wondering what happened to their party.
     
  18. SmeggySmeg

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    here's what i scored

    Kerry - 100
    Kucinich - 100
    Sharpton - 93
    Clark - 89
    Dean - 89
    Edwards - 82
    Lieberman - 78

    Bush - 10
     
  19. mrpaige

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    I have noted many times in the past where I disagree with the President and his administration, many of those issues being what I would consider to be core Republican issues.

    I think there are a lot of people who consider themselves Republican who find themselves disagreeing with the President on a lot. And I think a lot of us are more liberal than the administration on a lot of what are termed as the 'social issues'.
     
  20. bigtexxx

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    Bush 100%
    Lieberman 61%
    Edwards 61%
    Kerry 57%
    Dean 52%
    Kucinich 35%


    God bless America.
     

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