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[I'm ignorant] Educate me on Silas' offensive system

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by steddinotayto, Oct 7, 2021.

  1. desihooper

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    Still looks like a flawed strategy of isoball coupled with the beat them with math approach (3>2), but not easily done with a bunch of high volume, low percentage outside shooters and not-yet-established with (seemingly) low basketball IQ stars.
     
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    Surely this has already been said, but "there is no system." Looks like Church League Chuck-a-rama to me.
     
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  3. Nook

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    Really hard to look good as a coach when you have a team as young and flawed as the Rockets. Porter and Wood are not easy to coach and half the roster is literally kids… but Wood/Gordon/Tate/Theis are rotation players on a good team or better…. No real excuse for this team to be 7 and 55 over the last 62 games. They are winning like 12% of their games and I don’t see improvement… and that rests in part on coaching.
     
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    Read and React. aka, Children reading Faulkner.
     
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  5. Imanimal

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    Nobody forced the coach to play House so much last night and Christopher and Brooks (who are our best clutch players, along with Gordon) so little. Coach has MAJOR history of association with losing and it has carried, as expected, over to our team.
     
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    I saw KPJ beat his man to the basket, picked up his dribble, and made a risky pass to an outside shooter that was guarded. They're guarding us man to man and we can't take advantage of it.

    Wood or Sengun are the only players that suck the defense in since they have proven they can score back to back points. Wood this year is camping at the 3 line for no reason.
     
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  7. SamFisher

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    Congratulations you just described the offensive strategy of 30 teams.

    I don't feel like looking this up but I'd be shocked if the Rockets ran a lot of pure isolations. I don't think they do.

    Edit: they don't. 7% of their plays are isolations. Brooklyn leads with 12%, Spurs 3% are last.
     
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  8. Hemingway

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    Brooks has showed very little when given the opportunity. He is nothing but a streaky outside shooter who plays crappy defense. If you need some instant offense, put him in run a play for him. If he makes his first shot leave him in,if not get him out. Id like to see more JC, but don’t know where you get he is clutch since he has largely only got garbage minutes.
     
  9. desihooper

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    Thanks, but I don't have to watch 29 other teams on a nightly basis :confused:
     
  10. SamFisher

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    Yeah you do. Watch what the other teams do when the Rockets are on defense.

    I also think that it's amazing that - in the year 2021, people think shooting a bunch of 3 pointers is "the math approach" or at all a unique strategy or even "a strategy" . It's table stakes.

    The Jazz lead the league with nearly 50% of their shots being from 3. Rockets middle of the pack with 40. The Spurs lag with 30.

    But for reference, the Spurs last in the league 30% today would have been among the league leaders in 2014, when the Rockets smashed existing records with a new fangled offense that launched...34% from deep.
     
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  11. steddinotayto

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    shoutout to @SamFisher for bringing up iso %s

    Play Type:

    Isolation
    Freq: 7.6% (11th in the NBA)
    PPP: .94 (T-10th)
    FG%: 42% (14th)
    To Freq: 12.6% (T-6th)
    Percentile: 65.5 (10th)

    Transition:
    Freq: 17.3% (9th)
    PPP: .97 (29th)
    FG%: 52% (15th)
    To Freq: 17.1% (1st)
    Percentile: 3.4 (29th)

    Pick and Roll Ball Handler
    Freq: 18.3% (14th)
    PPP: .69 (28th)
    FG%: 35.2% (27th)
    To Freq: 24.5% (1st)
    Percentile: 6.9 (28th)
     
  12. SamFisher

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    For all the talk about ISO's - the leading ISO team in the NBA uses it...12% of the time.

    I think the Rockets used it the most ever in 2019 when Harden was in 5-out god mode at 20.9%
     
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    Brooks defensively is better than 75% of the roster
     
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    Outside of poor FT%, Opponents Points Off Fast Breaks are what's killing the Rockets

    https://www.teamrankings.com/nba/stat/opponent-fastbreak-points-per-game

    Rockets are:
    Total: 19.9 opponents points off fast breaks per game
    Home: 13.8 opponents points off fast breaks per game
    Away: 23.4 opponents points off fast breaks per game
    (We've mostly played away games)

    Next closest is Philadelphia at 15.5 Opp pts off fast breaks

    Some of that has to do with how raw Porter/Green are.
    Not getting back and protecting our rim.

    We would have won this last game at home if Sengun played and House did not,
    but I digress.
     
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    Good to see the numbers.

    Maybe the Silas deniers can tell us what system they would like to run based off the numbers….
     
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    It's almost as though Silas just doesn't remember what made Wood look really good early on in his tenure with the Rockets. P&R with Harden. Now he wants to turn him into Channing Frye for some reason.

    Wood, and/or Sengun should be in the P&R on damn near every play. Put the ball in EG, and Augustine's hands more to create in the P&R. Let the youngsters play off the P&R as wings, and from the corners until they can learn to not turn the ball over on every damn play. It's not that hard to run a competent offensive NBA system.
     
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    Only the Spurs have a worse team FT% than Houston's 69.6%....Spurs 69.0

    Pop's must be a terrible coach. Fire him!
     
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    Wood is allergic to setting screens without Harden.
    Wood seems to prefer to ISO and take his man off the dribble when given the chance.

    Plus given the numbers posted above… we turn it over mucho during PNR.
     
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  20. steddinotayto

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    In his last year with Detroit (over 62 games), Wood as the PnR roll man:

    Freq: 19.7%
    PPP: 1.5
    FG%: 71%
    EFG%: 75.7%
    Percentile: 95.4%

    About 65% of his field goal attempts were 10ft or less from the basket

    This year, as a PnR roll man:

    Freq: 12.9%
    PPP: .89
    FG%: 44%
    EFG%: 47%
    Percentile: 16.4%

    From the same distance he's shooting 15% less (~50% attempts) as opposed to 2 years ago

    Christian Wood's last season as a Detroit Piston (specifically on plays where he scored):

    https://www.nba.com/stats/events/?f...teams&sct=hex&CF=PLAYER_NAME*E*Christian Wood

    I watched probably 80 out of the 288 and, at the beginning of the season, Wood sucked at setting screens. He would position himself to set a pick and even before his teammate could use said pick he was already rolling. However, as the season went on and he got more playing time, the picks he set were pretty solid.

    I went to watched clips from this season (again, only specifically on plays where he scored) and the picks were of the softer, half-asses variety that I saw at the beginning of the 2019-2020 season with Detroit.
     
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