[I'm ignorant] Educate me on Silas' offensive system

Turnovers are the killers......and KPj needs to speed it up - he uses a slow pace, to BURST past his man with a quick first step, this works against defenses that are giving a little, but he needs to do the OPPOSITE when facing pressure, like Minnesota's D, go fast at them, then slow quickly to create that space....he needs variety.

Same for Green, he is all one speed......RAW SPEED ......needs a little Sam Cassel hurky jerk in his game.

DD

 

Over play the vets even though we are rebuilding (Theis, Gordon, Nwaba, House) and go one on one a lot and when you do run a play it generates zero open shots so the random one on one's are actually better than your system eventhough your players arent really good one on one players. You got a big man who can facilitate sitting on the bench (Sengun). Your starting guard has poor pass vision but you dont start Sengun electing to start a shooting center Theis who is undersized and cant really shoot. Anytime someone gets hot you sit them (Green, Wood, Sengun). And anytime someone is off you play them more (Gordon, House, Nwaba). When you need shooters you put in a non shooter Nwaba when KJ Martin who shoots near 37% from 3 is sitting right there. When you need defense you play House instead of Nwaba. You dont really have a system because you're still learning how to be a head coach while at the same time trying to teach youngsters to be in the NBA. He is not a good fit for this team. He would have been fine with Harden and Westbrook because his one on one offense would be what they wanted. I think he was hired for them I could be wrong and he just doesnt know how to rebuild. This is my guess. He was expecting complete teams where you have to play vets alot.

 

Wish we play KJ, Christopher and Garuba more. Even Armoni. Hate that we are stuck with vets in the rotation like why we even try to compete? And Silas still doesn't have set plays from year 2

 

I love this. It's always bothered me, and I've posted on here about it before, when people always say "better" pace when they mean faster. "We need to play at a better pace" or "this team plays with the best pace in the NBA." What's so objectively good about playing faster? Nothing! Finally I have a graph to back me up. I'm tired of this unwritten assumption among people who discuss the NBA that faster pace is automatically a good thing.

 

actually we would be more competitive playing the young guns

 

silas gonna ruin and chase away the young talent we have and we will spent the entire decade tanking because of this

 

Hopefully Silas remembers Jalen Green is on the team here soon

 

% of possessions that are isolations with points per possession

1: Brooklyn : 14.4% : 1.05 ppp
19: Houston : 5.4% : 0.88 ppp
30: San Antonio : 1.7% : 1.00 ppp

 

Our most successful team relied on slowing down the game as much as possible and letting Harden/CP3 take turns on ISO, P&R, and drive and kicks. So I agree with you there.

 

I'm not sure any variation of this team gets to the playoffs anyway, so it all might be a moot point. I'm not too concerned with Silas, because if we get a big trade or the young guys develop a little faster than expected we can just Brett Brown his ass in the offseason and get an actual coach.

 

The guy takes almost 15 shots per game, he is one of the main dudes......what are you talking about?

DD

 

10-12 of those end up being awful shots that nobody would consistently make. I'm not sure if that's a failure on Green or just lack of any good offensive sets by Silas that forces Green to try to create shots on his own.

 

Minimal actions being run to get him involved on screens, cuts, etc. Most of his shots are ISO/pull ups, usually low percentage. I'd like to see him worked in more within the flow of the offense. Otherwise...we may as well have kept Mike Dantoni.

 

Isolation "plays" are different from the offense breaking down to one on one stagnant offense. I would like to see if this accounts for that fact. The technical definition of isolation play is one person holding the ball and others clearing out. Makes sense that the Nets call this play a lot because they have the best iso players in the league. In houston one person holds the ball and no one clears out but it still ends up being one on one on plays that are not called that way and that likely doesnt fit the definition of an "isolation play".

 

I agree and if you actually watched the context of last game whenever he is open he never gets it. He was forcing shots trying to get going but they werent good shots. By the endof the game the rest of the team realized they couldnt score and needed him but he was out of the game by then. Which is boht his and their faults. He just kept gettign set up for bad shots and no one gave it to him on open ones. I pin that on SIlas because even bickerstaff is showing that if you have a yougn guy with talent they will perform in the right situations.

 

Those are better numbers than I would have expected based on the stuff that gets written about Silas and his offense on here.

 

I dont know that those numbers are showing that people are wrong about SIlas. I dont see anything that they disproved. Most of the anger is about lack of open shot opportunities and bad rotations, over playing vets etc. Most of us arent concerned about the standings.

 

I believe the tracking data defines it as a possession that ends from an isolation. Doesn’t specify “isolation plays”, just possessions, whether there is a clear out or it’s just a possession where one player holds the ball and no one moves or it’s a play that broke down so one guy had to make something happen on his own, it’s an isolation.

I don’t think these tracking numbers are perfect or 100% infallible. But I don’t think they are off by much. It’s possible there are a few more plays per game that probably could be classified as isolation.

But I think our crappy overall offense has tricked some people’s eyes into believing we are resorting to one on one more than reality.

Though it seems everyone is very right in recognizing we suck at isolation plays.