I don't consciously do this "expectation" thing for most sports. Doesn't matter if we lose to a great team or a horrible team, every loss hurts...alot
P1S2 - I'm going to stop hi-jacking Jeff's thread and post an ending comment. We obviously disagree on Gay and Swift over Battier. Swift is looking damned good under Iavarroni just like he did under Hubie. That's all I'll say there. For Rudy Gay thus far in 2007-08? He scores a fraction more points than McGrady for every minute they are on the court. All this while taking fewer shots per floortime minute than either McGrady or Yao. A ball hog? Hardly. Based on 38 floortime minutes, McGrady takes 21.9 FGA's, Yao takes 16.4 and Rudy G takes 16.0. The three would combine for 54.4 of an Adelman Rockets ~85 FGA's/game. IOW, that's 30 remaining shots for the other players.
I am interested in your view of the difference between the Blazers and Kings under Adelman. You may, if you wish, email me outside of the BBS if you think that would be more appropriate to explain this to me privately than to do so in this GARM thread. My email address is in my profile. Other than that, I'm not so sure that there was a fundamental difference between either of those teams under Adelman.
Whats the point?. even if we were gonna draft to keep a player, gundy and dawson stated many times that we would have drafted Selfosha .the only reason gay was picked by us was so we could send him to memphis. this was a deal put in place before the draft. So all this gay nonsense is useless. we werent gonna pick him anyway. the coaching staff wanted selfosha from the start.
For the damned 2 millionth freakin' time...how in the hell does NOT taking Gay excuse ANYBODY????????????????????????? What would they have done? Been even dumber by trading down and NOT getting compensated? The athleticism of Sefalosha AND ANY incoming vet salary contract match >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Battier. Read it slowly....IT DOESN'T MATTER WHETHER IT WAS GAY OR SEFALOSHA....BOTH WERE BETTER OPTIONS. Battier alone was the worst of the 3 possible options...why do you clowns STILL struggle with that?
That last defensive holding call was pretty lame. Maybe Yao was playing defense for the Ravens there.
I believe the main reason watching the Rockets play is so painful is because you think to yourself "Man, if I were coach I could do a better job than Adelman," at least, from my point of view. I remember during the Rockets 2004-05 season, I instantly knew the source of the problem: Jim Jackson. I loved the guy the year before with the Francis, Mobley, Yao trio, but when T-Mac came into the picture, that guy was terrible, bricking threes, and just, messing up the chemistry of the team. Yet, despite seeing the problem, it took the Rockets organization until late December to finally realize that. I honestly believe Bonzi Wells is that type of player to our team today; I believe he's messing up our chemistry. When he didn't play against Denver, we blew them out. When he played a few 13 and 17 minutes, we beat the Clippers and Suns, respectively. When he played 26 plus in both the Warriors and Kings game, we lost. He needs to go. Package Bonzi along with Luther Head and Kirk Snyder for some decent player(s) within 5.8 mil, i.e. Ben Gordon and Aaron Gray. Give Mike Harris a phone call too while we're at it. Get it done Morey.
I double-checked the B. Wells, L. Head, K. Snyder for B. Gordon, A. Gray trade I just mentioned on real GM and it worked... so... would the Bulls actually consider the deal? That move is a bit rash... but... I don't know... for some reason I think it might just work, call me crazy. The only thing I'd be worried about is Gordon is on his last year contract... oh well... GET IT DONE!
In 2004-2005, Tmac's first season, the Rockets looked dead in the water. We traded away a fan favorite in Steve Francis for Tracy McGrady, but the results were worse. The Magic got off to a good start with Francis leading them to wins, while McGrady could not get going offensively. We were expecting him to average 32 ppg and dunk over players like he did in Orlando, but that wasn't happening. Along with that, Yao was still developing, and our supporting cast was very old or below average players (Sura, J. Jackson, Howard, Weatherspoon, Oakley, Ryan Bowen, Reece Gaines, Charile Ward). I'm sure A LOT of people hit the panic button then. They probably said, "We should have never traded for Tmac, fire Van Gundy, Trade Yao,..." However, the Rockets just needed some time and a few minor adjustments. They brought in many new players during the offseason, and they were not playing up to expectations. Tmac got going, Yao became a little more consistant, but the team was STILL not winning, so thats when the changes came. The David Wesley trade, Mutombo trade, signing John Barry, Mike James trade...). After that, the Rockets had a great record, I want to say something like 40-11 or pretty close to that after December. Just give it some time, and if it doesn't work, THEN start making a few small trades. The Rockets will be fine, considering Tmac is scoring like he did in Orlando, and with much more ease, and Yao is still dominating down low. Atleast we can fall back on that this season if we have to. At the start of the 2004-2005 season, we couldn't rely on them the way we do now. Plus we do have a deep team, but those players just have to hit shots and its pretty hard for an NBA team with talented players like the Rockets do, to shoot this bad all year long. They'll get their shot back in time. We have also witnessed how good this team can play when we are clicking on all cylinders. Now we just have to get that type of performance consistantly. IMO, if the Rockets don't get things together by 2nd or 3rd week of december, then it may be time for a few trades or free agent signings or Brooks, Novak, and Landry to start getting some minutes. But until then, CHILL OUT, its a long season, the Rockets will get things together. Rick Adelman doesn't have 65% winning percentage by accident. He knows how to coach talent. The Rockets are in a bad shooting slump right now and at times play down to their competition. Once we play with the same winning attitude every night, this team will be dangerous.
I think Battier is looking more like the Jim Jackson of this team. Not that he is destroying chemistry, but that he just doesn't seem to fit in this offence. Offensively, he doesn't look comfortable. I hate to say this, because I love players like Battier who give it their all, and fill an important role on our team, but it might be in the best interest of the Rockets to trade Shane. He will still have a lot of trade value. IF we do indeed trade Battier away, maybe Francis can start at Shooting guard and we can trade for shot blocker maybe or a three point shooter. As long as Bonzi comes off the bench and rebounds, he will be fine. He is still a nightmare matchup for most guards. He just has to start posting up again. Plus if we face the Spurs in the playoffs, we definetily need Bonzi then. I haven't tried anything on trade machine yet, but here are a few players that might help this team if we trade Battier, Head, and Snyder, for a player and maybe future draft picks. THESE are just SUGGESTIONS and IDEAS. Nothing more. PF) Chris Wilcox (good rebounder, decent shot blocker at times, great athlete) SG) Cuttino Mobley (Quick, can hit open shots, solid defender) SF) Ron Artest (Great defender and can score 20 a night if needed) I know its a stretch, but why not give it a try. The Kings are rebuilding. We will need more than Battier, Head, and Snyder to offer though. SG) Corey Maggette (good inside and outside player, strong going to the basket, shooting 43% from 3 pt.) Probably more unlikely than Artest, but the Clippers are going nowhere and he has a history of injuries; Its a high risk, high reward type of deal. SF) Andres Nocioni (Solid, tough, physical defender and good shooter) Battier would fit into Skile's system (Almost like JVG, defensive oriented) and Head gives them a shooter. Plus the Bulls look horrible right now, they need to do something with their roster. PF) Sean Williams (Good shot blocker and is athletic for a big man) Highly doubt the Nets would give up on Williams so soon. This would probably only work if Carter or Jefferson were to be traded mid season for a player of a different position. These suggestions are for IF the Rockets don't get it together in the next couple of weeks.
I don't exepect to win all the games but what's most frustrating is when your team loses winnable games because of lack of heart! This team needs heart amongst all other things!
GATER, Quit it. Even if you're right, it doesn't matter. If we are both looking at a screwdriver and I am convinced that it's a hammer, you aren't going to change my mind. Even more to the point, this argument is old and pointless at this juncture. Battier was obtained for the JVG Rockets, not Adelman, for whom Battier would not have been obtained if Adelman was the coach at the time. Short sighted as the deal may have been in your view, who friggin' cares anymore? If you do it's because you have to be right. Let it go, and talk about how to fix THIS team. -P1st, S2nd
Selfosha is thrash. i've seen him play and he is nothing special. i'll take battier over a overrated scrub.
If you think Selfosha is better theb battier then whatever. i'll take battier over selfosha anyday. shane is just going through a slump.
I want Tayshaun Prince to fake going crazy for 20 games, get released by the Pistons, and sign a wink-wink, nudge-nudge deal with the Rockets like the one reached between Kevin McHale and Joe Smith. We might get caught later on, but maybe we'll get a ring first and be so dominant for the next five or six years that we won't need no stinkin' draft picks! If there's one guy in this league than can turn us from a .500 stinker into a champaign class clinker after the NBA finals (as a compliment to Yao and T-Mac) it's Tayshaun Prince, IMHO. That ain't gonna happen, but I can dream.
