Illinois illegal immigrant driver's licenses available in 10 months

You're assuming, however, that these people aren't driving right now. Just because you don't have a license doesn't mean you're not going to drive. If you were willing to come into the country illegally, you're probably willing to drive in it illegally.

State police don't monitor immigration - that's a federal role. So if a state/county/city police officer stops you, they aren't going to care if you're illegal or not. Their job is to enforce the state's laws (exception being Arizona, with the new immigration bill).

If a federal agent catches you, then you have a problem with immigration status - but since the feds don't handle motor violations, it's not really an issue.

 

Next step...force them to buy Car Insurance. Damn illegal's get in wrecks and never have insurance, because they don't have a DL.

 

While a this is blanket statement, I do agree with it. Everyone driving is a statistical risk and burden to auto insurance costs, so everyone should participate in paying for it.

 

Some illegals do have car insurance

 

Funny. That happened to me. Lady hit me, no DL, no insurance. I gave her my insurance info and the next day I find out I'm being sued by her and she's claiming the accident was my fault. After a few years and lawyer changes on her side the whole thing was finally thrown out due to her weak-ass case.

Can't say for certain she was an illegal, though no DL, no insurance and neither her nor her two passengers spoke any passable English.

 

Lets just skip the whole process and open the borders for everyone and fast track everyone to US citizens. Of course, we should only apply this to those south of the US border. Everyone else should continue to wait in line, especially europeans, since they have no effecting on our politics.

 

Politics is simply who gets what,..when,..where,..and how...

 

I don't know how this is possible unless it's identity fraud. I sell car insurance (amongst other things).

So you're against this idea? Uninsured drivers and those driving around illegally are a major burden on our costs. Why can't we do this and not open the borders? Forcing car insurance does not mean citizenship. Documenting and tracking illegal immigrants does not mean legitimization.

 

Sad to see there is still a lot of racism.

 

“Politics is the entertainment branch of industry.”

― Frank Zappa

 

Driver's licenses are state issues not Federal.

 

Is that a state law? I am a US citizen but I don't recall ever having to show proof of my immigration / citizenship status to buy car insurance. I have had to show proof of my state residency status but as noted state residency isn't the same as immigration / citizenship status.

I agree fully. I am for more open borders but think a compromise solution that increases border enforcement while doing everything possible to bring people currently here into the system. This isn't a matter of benefiting undocumented immigrants but for everyone else. Driver's licenses and insurance just makes sense to help improve overall road safety and cover costs of accidents.

 

when state legislation conflicts with federal legislation, it becomes a Supreme Court (federal) issue.

 

FYI:

 

There is no conflict regarding state issued driver's licenses and immigration status. As noted above the USSC reaffirmed in the ruling regarding AZ's law that immigration is primarily a federal issue. Whether a state issues a driver's license doesn't mean the recipient can't be deported by the Federal government just as a state can't decide US immigration status.

 

Sure there is. It is one thing for a state to not use resources to enforce a federal law, it is another for someone breaking a federal law to walk into a state building; admit they are breaking a federal law; and having the state government ignore this fact. Of course the Supreme Court can get involved.

 

Terms like Hispanic/Latino only hurt these people. I speak English and live an English dominated culture, so why am I not an Anglo-Saxony? That's right Anglo-Saxony Power!!!!

 

My point is when you extract terms like Latino/Hispanic from the equation and really examine ancestry, who are these people really? Many Mexicans come from tribes north of the border. Infact in states like California, New Mexico, Arizona, Texas, Oklahoma, Nevada, there's like a 150 year gap with Mexicans south and north of the border that have ancestry from same Native American tribes but only got pushed north or south due national/political affiliations or wars in general when America was still being established. It's Western Imperialism at it's finest, you erase the true ancestry of a people and you really fawk things up for them.

 

I don't think you fully understand Federalism. Granting a driver's license isn't a matter of federal law as it is under the purview of the state. As noted in the ruling on the AZ law states cannot enforce immigration law, they can ask about immigration status and refer that to ICE, but it is not their obligation to enforce it. In regard to driver's licenses though immigration status has no bearing since it is up to the states to consider whether that is relevant at all. IL is under no compunction to consider that as a requirement.

Also consider that in the case of medical mar1juana there are several states that have legalized medical mar1juana while the Federal government has said that they will still enforce it. Under Federalism States can and do enforce different laws than the Federal government.

 

So the lesson here is to have more children than you can afford to raise, and then use your voting power to get what you want, no matter how much of a burden it places on everyone else?

Gotcha!