Illicit Arms Kept Till Eve of War, an Iraqi Scientist Is Said to Assert

cson, Isn't that taking it just a little too far?

 

Well, that all depends on how far you....aw, forget it. Too easy.

 

A pissant scientist in charge of manufacturing chemical weapons knows intimate details about every aspect of Saddam's WMD program and is a personal confidante of ole Saddam himself and was present at the super secret meetings between iraqi officials and al qaeda.

Saddam's history of paranoia would dictate that someone who was not a member of his inner circle wouldn't have known anywhere near that amount of information.

But I'll give the scientist props for being a good actor.



All I'm asking for is hard evidence. He said-She said might be good enough evidence to send lower class people to prison on a regular basis in our country but it doesn't really cut it when you're talking about WMD.

keep reaching for that rainbow.

 

In the words of the Great Leon Phelps:

Uhhhm yeah, well that's disgustin'.

 

You respond to your habitual tomfoolery with a crap article talking about East Timor, Sharon's secret plan for ME domination, and let's suspend free market capitalism just this time for Halliburton? Spare me. We've only known we'd be going to war and that oil fires might be a problem oh I don't know for maybe 6 months or so? You think we could get some bidding done in 6 months time or is this administration too stupid to plan that far ahead? You yourself said on this board that in order for there to be validity to suspicious connections that Halliburton needed to subvert the bidding process which they did. You have serious selective memory problems buddy.

Maybe some time this week you could post another editorial that puts all these anti-war schmoes in their place again without actually answering a single concern regarding current issues. You're so good at that.

 

But in Iraq this proposed scenario is believed in only by the puerile. It's the baby-oil theory. It was for the sake of real oil and for the grim-faced Saudis that Saddam Hussein was kept as a favorite by Washington during the 1980s and saved from overthrow in 1991. It was not for the sake of oil that the risky decision to cease this corrupt coexistence was made. But at least now the Iraqi people have a chance of controlling their own main resource, and it will be our task to ensure that the funding and revenue are transparent instead of opaque. This couldn't have been left to the oil interests who ran the place until recently, and it couldn't even have been attempted if we'd listened to the peaceniks, who strike me now more than ever as … oleaginous.

 

Maybe this scientist knows where the easter bunny is to.

 

First of all only some Czech officials believe the meeting took place, not Czech officials as a whole. This is from the Miami Herald.

http://squawk.ca/lbo-talk/0205/0135.html
Some Czech officials said Atta had contacted Al-Ani, who was later expelled from the Czech Republic, to discuss an attack on the Prague building that serves as the headquarters for U.S.-funded Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty.

But Czech authorities have since retracted their statements to the U.S. government, saying that no such meetings took place. Atta is now believed to have been in the United States during the time he was supposed to have been meeting with Al-Ani, said a U.S. official, speaking on condition of
anonymity.


As far as defectors the only I've heard mention an Al-Qaeda tie is the one listed in the article you posted.

IT's funny that you claim evidence points in this direction when of all the Al-Qaeda captives and Iraqi officials captured in this war, none of them has ever alleged a connection.

What would be a more accurate statement from you would be that the overwhelming amount of evidence point to no ties, but the evidence which you choose to believe, even though it's clearly in the minority is the word of an unnamed scientist.

 

Great, post it again I didn't read it the first time. Funny that Hitchens insinuates we did it so that Iraqis can control their own oil when we support the Saudis subjugation of their own people. (Wonderful consistency there, maybe we can blame the peaceniks for the situation of the poor Saudi people too.) It was for oil one time and another time (I'm sure many of you are shocked we support wars and tyrants based on oil interests, who knew?) but not this time. And we know this because? Let's do multiple choice.

We know this because

1) Hitchens said so
2) Bush said so
3) The price of oil has tumbled and will tumble more when Iraq is online, US companies will get billions in oil contracts, and the US economy will be the world's largest beneficiary of cheaper oil.

 

How do we support the subjugation of the Saudi people?

 

Everyone,

Cson is volunteering to give them all blow jobs...now if that is not service to your country I don't know what is....

DD

 

And if there were a connection, I'm sure they would be the first ones to admit it.

 

They may not, but they have given us other information which has lead to arrests, and uncovering other terrorist cells and evidence.

And while they might not admit a connection, certainly the FBI and American intelligence probably wouold. This is from an Article talking about the meeting that Atta supposedly had in Praque. It's from a newsweek article.

Just keep rolling those eyes, though, it's very effective in proving an argument.

http://www.casi.org.uk/discuss/2002/msg00593.html
The FBI could find no
visa or airline records showing he had left or re-entered the United States that
month. "Neither we nor the Czechs nor anybody else has any information he was
coming or going [to Prague] at that time," says a U.S. official.

But intelligence officials have been reluctant to set the record
straight - both out of reluctance to embarrass an allied government and because
so many anti-Saddam hawks in the Bush administration had embraced the story. To
be sure, administration hardliners aren’t ready to give up. Newsweek has learned
that Pentagon analysts are still aggressively hunting for evidence that might
tie Atta, or any of the other hijackers, to Saddam’s agents. It may yet turn up,
but for now, at least, the much touted "Prague connection" appears to be an
intriguing, but embarrassing, mistake.

 

DD- Thank you for your support of my support of supporting!



Now I will sing

 

What a load of crap. It is well documented by at least 7 sources that there is an Easter Bunny. People who keep pointing out that we never see him are really reaching; in fact, I read an article about a guy who has seen the Easter Bunny, and points out that it always ducks out just before anyone else gets there...so that proves that. And it also proves why no one else has ever seen him. If you don't want to face the facts, and go on living in your little fringe dream world, go ahead...but the rest of us who admit the truth based on that anonymous testimony aren't so easily fooled. And those other times when we posted "Santa Claus Seen Live!" and " The Tooth Fairy Lives!" and we turned out to be wrong have nothing to do with this discussion at all, so don't even bring them up, pr the parents that were pretending to be them...This is different...fool.

 

If you read the other article posted it talks about the scientist mentioned in JohnHeaths article. The reporter accompanying the people wasn't allowed to interview the scientist, the military isn't saying what chemicals this guy talked about it, what tests were performed on them, or the name of this guy. But if some people want to believe that this shows the evidence is that Saddam has links with Al Qaeda, and they finally have proof of the WMD, then there is not too much that can be done to argue with them.

 

What blows my mind is it would take a direct attack on US soil for them to believe these WMD exist. And once it did happen, instead of eating crow, they would blame the president for not stopping it from happening.

 

Does anyone remember that conversation Lisa and Homer have about the rock that keeps tigers away?

 

Yes.

 

Well.......um..........*cough*..... boy, this is getting uncomfortable.... er...ah...care to....you know....elaborate, maybe? Expand on the connections you see between the specious reasoning about the rock and tigers and that espoused between the anti-Iraqi WMD war and Iraqi WMD terrorist attacks on America? You know...something along those lines? Or you could feel the urge to print up the Simpsons screenplay word for word from that conversation...any old thing....