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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Rocketman95, Mar 23, 2001.

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  1. The Cat

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    Here's a quote from a Mavs fan on our loss at their site Mavtalk.com: No need to be embarassed. The Clipps are an explosive team who can beat just about anybody.. So now according to a for sure playoff team its ok to lose to the Clippers... not that its necessarily true, but just bringing some outside perspective into this for those claiming to be "almost embarassed to be a Rockets fan".

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    Oh a Mav fan said it's OK, well I'll sleep better tonight.


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    As disappointed as we all are, imagine how Mo Taylor feels about now. He just lost to the organization he hates with a passion and now we may miss the playoffs as a result! Irony is a funny thing sometimes.

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  4. The Cat

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    My arguments were that we could beat the big time teams, not that we were better than them. And if we had beaten one of those teams 3 times, no I would not necessarily be saying we're better than them. The facts did work, were all true, and supported my line of reasoning. Through my line of reasoning you correctly deduced that the Clippers in a playoff series would be up 3-1 with homecourt advantage. But does that make them the winner? Nope...

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    Alright, I just checked the schedules again. This loss can be made up. IF (and this is a big if), the T-wolves lose tomorrow against Denver, and the Rockets beat Seattle, the difference will be a mere 1.5 games. If the Rockets can get it down to 1 game by the end of March, they will still have a chance. 2.5 games isn't too much when it comes to the inconsistent T-Wolves. They just have to play each game like there's no tomorrow, and hope that the Wolves start losing. They especially need to lose tomorrow! Go Nuggets! NugzFan, where the bloody hell are you? You've gotta root hard for the Nugz!

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  6. jamcracker

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    What's your point, Clutch?

    The Clips are 25-45. We are 38-31 with playoff hopes. Sucks that we lost tonight, but I won't/can't compare the Rockets to the Clips.
     
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    don't go soft on us ZRB, remember, we lost to the clippers therefore we suck...reality


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    jammie, Clutch isn't being negative for negative's sake... back up to the first few pages and reread. Clutch is just being the realistic foil for TheCat (sorry TheCat [​IMG]).

    It's no different than any of us playing devil's advocate w/ the old Tweak.

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    Clutch, question...

    If the Clips beat the Blazers on Monday for their 3rd win this season, are the Clips a better team than Portlad?

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    Every team can beat the big time teams if you play enough games. The Clippers beat Portland, remember?

    Sorry, have a hard time believing ya on that one.

    And as I showed, does it make them the winner in a 5-game series?

    (pause for effect)

    You're right, it doesn't make them the winner in a 7-game series, but it sure as hell doesn't look good.

    So the bottom line: It looks to me The Cat that what you're trying to say is 3-1 means nothing, but 4-1 is a clear indication of who the better team is.

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    TheCat,

    Can the Blazers afford to lose to the Clippers on Monday?

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    If you consider any team that beats another 3 out of 4 times in the regular season to be always better, and if you consider any team that loses to the Clips 3 times in a season to be not of playoff quality then sure he's realistic as can be. [​IMG]

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    We're a better team than the Clippers. By record, by rep, by whatever

    Let's call the Clips an "inferior team".

    League-wide, did all "superior" teams win their season series against all "inferior" teams? No. This is just one example.

    [praying the numbers back me up [​IMG]]
    [the plural for "series" is "series". howboutthat]

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    I'll go to bed on this note:

    1) The Rockets couldn't afford to lose this game, no matter how you look at it.
    2) The Clippers own the Rockets. Flat out. The only game the Rocks won had Odom on the bench.

    good night all.

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    No... I'm just trying to show through one example how winning 3 of 4 games does not necessarily make the Clippers a better team. Another win would be more convincing, but that is not the point. What I am arguing is that 3 out of 4 games does not always make one team better than another, and facts do back up that argument.


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    Not if they want any homecourt...

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    LOL! OK, I'll keep that in mind.... thanks for setting the number as to which team is better. Apparently 3 out of 4 means nothing... 4 out of 5? Ewwwww, convincing.

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    You guys are bumms...you get bummed out about every loss. Don't worry about it, let the pressure be on Minnesota or Phoenix now to prove that they are playoff caliber teams. If they aren't then I promise you the Rockets will be in the playoffs this year. Anyway you look at it the pressure is on them not us.

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    First off, I didn't say it would make them better. I just said in some cases it would be convincing. Apparently to you 2 out of 3 means nothing cause the Blazers are playoff bound and they've lost that many to the Clips... but 3 of 4 means everything and means a team is doomed.

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    Anyway, I'm off to bed as well. I'll leave everyone with a few thoughts:

    Playoff teams do lose to the Clips. They have a good young basketball team-- ask Portland about that.

    2.5 games is not hard to make up considering the schedules of Minnesota and Phoenix coming up. We are very much alive.

    Don't lose faith. Remember when we were 22-25? Almost everyone here wrote off the playoffs and us having any chance whatsoever... try to give this team more of a chance. They have proven all season long they deserve it.

    BELIEVE!!!!! GO ROCKETS!!!

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    #120 The Cat, Mar 23, 2001
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