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I'll save you the trouble regarding Lin.

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Panda23, Jul 7, 2013.

  1. King1

    King1 Contributing Member

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    Um, 22 wins in a row?

    You LOFs are clueless. Just go join a Lin site and stop ruining the board with your idiocy
     
  2. trock

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    Rafer was already 29? coming to HOU and shot under .400 for his career. C'mon, the fact that you're even insinuating Lin is a comparable player at this point is baiting.

    Honestly, this whole Lin thing is tired. The defensiveness and baiting on both sides is unbecoming. There should be a moratorium on Lin threads until something actually newsworthy happens with him. Until then, I'm happy to look forward to this team as presently constructed. I think we're going to have a fine season.
     
  3. Akim523

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    Well Rafer was consistently bad, that is true
     
  4. kwongadong

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    Agreed. Linsanity was a good story, but it's over. Some people think it's a fluke, others a sign of potential. I'm in the second camp...I mean, as a Rockets fan, why wouldn't you want to be in the second camp? We've got him for now, so let's hope he gets better.
     
  5. tinman

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    he was much better under rick adelman than jvg
     
  6. kwongadong

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    Me, an LOF? Geez, I thought only 12ers got that title.

    22 in a row is a team accomplishment.
     
  7. Gil

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    Looooooooooooooooolllllllll

    I'm not Lin's biggest fan but you're way far off the mark here. Lin is already a far better player than Rafer ever was and posted up far better stats last year than Rafer ever did.

    Rafer consistently shot under 40% here for crying out loud.
     
  8. Rockets2K

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    I said no such thing

    Yall would have a much better experience here if you would QUIT PUTTING WORDS IN OTHER PEOPLES MOUTHS.

    I compared the level of hatred that Rafer got to the *perceived* level of hate Lin gets...nothing more, nothing less. You see baiting because that is what you want to see. I have no interest in prolonging the "Lin Wars", it fouls up my forum and makes the Crew's jobs MUCH MUCH harder than it needs to be.



    But I will not be silenced from speaking my opinion and viewpoint on historical events......you guys can give that up right now...I may be a mod, but Im still a fan and a member of this forum and I damn well will speak my mind regardless of whether yall like it or not.
     
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    Rafer was almost 30 when he got here though. How can we all forget the tear drop that would make us all cry. Luthor head got it pretty bad too. There was no twitter then so lucky for them. It wouldn't surprise me if they'd gotten death threats like jacoby.
     
  10. trock

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    Dude, chill. They point is why, in anyone's mind, would Lin even get the level of hatred that Rafer got? They're not even comparable at this point.
     
  11. Nubmonger

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    That's literally the same thing as going back to the Knicks empty-handed. Re-engaging them to do what, exactly? Make a contract offer? I'm really curious as to what you think the timeline of events was on this. The Knicks had every opportunity to make a formal contract offer well in advance of any other team, and during the whole Rockets gambit they could have simply presented an offer to him that would have worked within their budget. Instead, they waited until Morey called their bluff, looked at the offer sheet, and just walked away. They didn't make a counter offer with a different contract, and they didn't try to match. They literally just walked away.

    My issue with this is that you are placing the onus squarely on Lin's camp, when it takes two (or in this case, three) to tango. The Knicks had the ball in their court for months before any other team, and they didn't even bother to do the math until push came to shove. Lin did exactly what they told him to - he went out and got the best contract offer he could, with the understanding that they would match it.

    Now suddenly it's his responsibility to ensure that his contract fits within their budgetary constraints? What's he supposed to do, tell his agent to get their revenue figures from accounting and figure out how to max his contract without having them get hit by the repeater luxury tax?

    I know what you're trying to say, but again, my problem is two-fold: 1) that this even needs to be discussed, 2) that it's discussed in the context that Lin somehow had more options to take less money when in fact he really didn't.

    The normal response to the ridiculous idea that Lin doesn't care about money, when he obviously does to some extent, is: "Lin cares about money. Everyone cares about money. That's why he signed the Rocket's contract instead of taking the qualifying offer from the Knicks." It's not: "Lin cares about money. That's why he helped to screw the Knicks over and had the Rockets give him as much money as possible. Because he cares about money first and foremost." Which is pretty much how you originally worded your argument, and happily expanded upon.

    Because either Lin is a money-grubber or should be a good "team player" and kowtowing, willing to take whatever pennies on the dollar are thrown his way, right?
     
  12. Rockets2K

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    Well, bad on me then. I guess I must have phrased that wrong cause everyone is fixating on one throw away line and not focusing on the point of the post

    The post was about perceived hatred, it wasnt a skill comparison between Rafer and Lin.

    geeze, reading comprehension in this place has gone in the crapper.
     
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    Would have gotten in trouble with the NBA and the NBAPA for what? Negotiating? LOL

    You guys are crazy if you think agents don't leverage offers all the time.
     
  15. Rockets2K

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    Dont ask me, I dont hate the kid. I dont understand why someone would hate him, he is a nice kid, got some talent, hopefully he puts it together....but it is an undeniable fact it did not happen for him last year. take it as you will, but he didnt have a good year.
     
  16. kwongadong

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    Well this is what you typed:

    "What you read here now is NOTHING like the heat Rafer got, and honestly, he was MUCH more consistent than Lin has been up to this point."

    We'll just ignore that and assume you didn't mean it...or you mean that he got consistent heat from fans.
     
  17. trock

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    You got guys in here with throw away lines like 'even Rafer had good games.' It doesn't take a whole lot of reading comprehension to see there are people on here always trying to marginalize the guy. It's the same guys in all these Lin threads. And yes, I know there are tons of unreasonable Lin fans that make no sense. I'm trying to stay out from now on, but sometimes I screw up.
     
  18. ag3ntgandhi

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  19. trock

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    I wholeheartedly agree he didn't have a good year. I think it was pretty avg. If he was on a normal rookie contract, I think it still could be seen as a hopeful developing season as a first year starter, but his contract says differently. But I see no reason he won't get better.
     
  20. trock

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    Anyway, I'm outta here. Go Rockets!
     

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