but that doesnt help us basktball-wise, it just saves les money. I'm sure he wants to save money, but also wants to win. Replacing tmac with a broken down or old player isnt going to get us wins.
are you ready for a let down? here it goes supposidly wizards are about to get amare. discussions are very serious according to some unnamed suns insider iggy has been linked to cavs by serious insiders iggy,to much lux tax....i ran a trade with wiz and i found something perfect,however it would go down as the biggest trade in history,it had 5 rockets and 8 wizards. it actually made sense for both.(until i found out that wizards want amare) so when clutch says NY is our last resort, you know things are going bad. lets face it, every year we do a tax cutting trade, and when I ran Hughes/Mobley the trade works and saves us about 2 million to get under. Obviously when we had CD we might swing for the fences on a overpaid Dally/Iggy but Morey is way more conservative and likes the undersized,underpaid,hard working role players. btw way, if your curious of the trade with wizards I ran, we actually lose a little in talent,but in summer of 2011 we have NOTHING on cap. Yes, $0 to the cap,so we can sign Durant,Yao(bird rights) you name it we can sign it. Washington does it to rebuild fast with our role players. Here it is >http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yfph8wf
Pierce suffered the injury in the first half of Boston's 99-88 victory over Washington Monday night when he got tangled up with the Wizards' Caron Butler going for a loose ball :grin: . He said after the game that he thought he sprained the ankle but didn't believe the injury was serious.
Dirk's not going anywhere. Amare will get a max or near max contract. If we let Tmac's contract expire, we will not have 23MM to play with in the offseason. You must read BimaThugs thread. We will not, I repeat, will not be able to bring in a max congract player. At most, we will be able to buy a $8 to $10MM player. Hence the point of this thread.
And if we let Tmac's contract expire, we won't be able to bring in multiple $7Mm to $8MM players.... not that much cap space. Please read Bimathug's thread.
Exactly! This is why to me the Iggy deals makes sense, you get a young guy locked up for a while. There are plenty of threads with good info on why making a move instead of letting tracy's contract expire is the right move. Iggy/Yao/Brooks/Landry and this supporting group can be competitive for a while.
Why wouldn't it? He would still be a tradeable piece. As long as teams have interest Morey can make moves to clear salary.
The supporting cast isn't going to be the same unless Les is willing to pay LT or more teams involved. Otherwise no cap space to sign Lowry , Scola or other free agents. Rox will only have one quality PG if that happens, and it's very hard to find one these days. Our 2nd unit plays like crap without Lowry these days. Iggy will make similar to Max deal money if cap space goes down like predicted. Is he worth Max? All the hope will be on Les to go over LT for that trade. Given Les's history, will he go over LT for Iggy? Very unlikely.
Martin is the absolute worst defender in the league. Anything else he does on the court with great skill (get to the line, shoot the deep ball) is rendered pointless because I COULD SCORE ON THE GUY. Iggy is paid way too much. Why do you think the Sixers want to trade him? Why d'you think nobody else wants him? Get Butler/Haywood. Pursue Bosh hard in the offseason. If everything shakes out: Brooks/Lowry Butler/Budinger Ariza/Battier Bosh/Landry Yao/Hayes/Andersen Looks fantastic to me.
Well said. Let some other team take McGrady's contract in hopes of chasing one of these players this summer. Let them give up some real talent to the Rockets, who then may devote money to keeping the good players they already have. Let the Rockets build a team deep with very good, young players, some of whom have the potential to become great. The answer is not always in the players who have already risen to their potential and are ready to collect a paycheck for it, limiting the rest of the team in the process. The answer might be collecting the most talent top to bottom, not just concentrated in a few players.
Butler sucks. All these videos are from 2005 or like 10 years ago. You guys need to wake up and actually look at him playing basketball this season. He is a shadow of himself.
Salary after this season: Yao - 16.3mil - player option Scola - 3.2mil - resigned Ariza - 5.8mil <-----bargain/asset/filler/youth Budinger - 750k <----asset/youth/filler Dorsey - 881k <----asset/youth/filler Landry - 3.0mil - expiring <----- bargain/filler/asset Taylor - 750k <----asset/youth/filler Added Pieces: Butler - 9.7mil <-----bargain/filler Haywood - 6.0mil - sign and trade for Pryzbilla McGee - 1.4mil <----asset/youth/filler Young - 1.7 mil <----asset/youth/filler Gallinari - 3.0mil <----asset/youth/filler Curry - 10.5mil - expiring <---starting package Jeffries - 6.4mil - expiring <---starting package Bayless - 2.1mil <----asset/youth/filler Outlaw - 3.6mil - resigned <----bargain/filler Other assets: Llull Around the league: Martin - 9.6mil <---- bargain Nocioni - 7.5mil <---- bad contract Iggy - 12.2mil <----- 3rd option/can be a 4th on this team Dalembert - 12.0mil <----- expiring/bad contract Williams - 4.9mil <----- youth/bad contract Jefferson - 12.0mil <----- youth/bargain Wallace - 9.5mil <----- veteran/baragin Brand - 14.8mil <----- veteran/bad contract Other assets: Rubio Minnesota trade: 1 Jeffries/Butler/Budinger/Taylor will net you Jefferson/Sessions Sacramento trade: 2 Curry/Ariza/Landry/N.Young will net you Martin/Nocioni/Greene Philadelphia trade: 3 Pryzbilla/Outlaw/Gallinari/Llull will net you Iggy/Green BUT FIRST: Trade1: Houston: Gallinari, Outlaw, Bayless, Curry, Jeffries Lands their assets; will be set up for 2011. Portland: Lee, Lowry, Andersen, Hill Clearing space to resign Lee; bring 2 more big bodies to replace Oden, Pryzbillia. New York: McGrady, Miller Will land the next best point guard available ahead of time on a good contract. That is just one potential deal that could go down considering the following: Portland was after Lee before Foster and Haywood. Lee already said he'd sign in Portland. NY has a bigger fish to fry with McGrady then to worry about their own Curry/Jeffries. I thought Bayless and Outlaw were being discussed quietly the last 2 seasons. I can see Houston and NY making the exception of doing such a deal only if Houston can get Gallinari/Bayless/Outlaw by taking back Curry/Jeffries. NY will need to move Lee after that statement and Portland will need to remove cap space and make more playing time for Fernandez who is currently unhappy with his role in Portland. NY will want something like Miller who is unhappy with his head coach McMillian and can see him running that offense in NY. As someone said: "It's the trade out of left field that nobody else seen coming." Trade 2: Houston: Butler, Haywood, McGee or Young OR: Butler, Haywood Washington: Brooks, Battier, Hayes, Cook Then: Budinger swap for either Young or McGee OR both if you throw in our first rounder. McGee is not something to scoff at a 7'footer with a 7'6 wing span. And i really think Houston can land Young for our 1st round pick without even using Budinger. Washington already said they don't expect to get back fair value. The owner of the Wizards just recently died AND I see them blowing things up. A Potential deal considering the following: Gilbert's locker room gun dispute between younger players and him gone for the season and possibly from the Wizards, they look to bring in more defense, Gilbert's replacement in Brooks and better locker room players and possibly a young for young swap. It's been reported that they are after one of Brooks, Landry or Budinger. Coach Flip Saunders complained earlier during the season that the Wizards don't play defense AND for his older age can score on their better players. Rockets look to add more bigs AND make roster space for Llull next season and Bayless this season after signing Conroy for the rest of the season. As I see it: This deal Brooks for Butler is a wash swap talent wise the rest is just fillers making salary work. You really have to think outside the box. Remember Curry/Pryzbilla/Jeffries are the expiring contracts to use to take back salary.
If Iggy had a contract that reflected his talent (8-10 mill), he wouldn't be up on the trading block to begin with.
Great post. Free agency is a joke. Iggy is the best player, but Dalembert is a no go. The problem with Butler is that we would have to give something good back. I'll keep the core and take Iggy and a bad contract...
Sixers wanna rebuild and there biggest challenge is to sell Brand out, Iggy is their main asset to deal with Iggy. Can you accept Brand?
