None of those guys have trade value either. So what's your point? Jeremy Lin has more trade value than players with negative to zero trade value? That's REALLY setting the bar high there.
my point is all those people that want him gone need to look at the big picture...i think he is a middle of the pack starting pg and his salary is reasonable so why all the talk about benching him/trading him
Now we are playing word game? The poster clearly proclaimed Harden was a "superstar" before he was traded here. It was an asinine statement, just like yours stating foundation players are star/superstar. Who in their right mind would call Harden a 'superstar' at that time? Lets not get all twisted with terminologies. Besides, if the poster had different definition of "superstar" than mine, I'm sure he is fully capable of answering for himself without any help from you.
Business Wise: His stock is rising and will continue to rise. He is Apple ,Microsoft and Intel when they were formed. Keep for the great capital appreciation and long term returns. Don't get caught by the recency effect.
I feel that Lin really wants to showcase himself right now to increase his chances of being noticed by another team. Lin is too smart to openly say anything about wanting to leave but he has hinted he isn't happy as a bench role player. From a personal financial point of view, if he's looking out for his own future, he isn't going to able to demand anywhere near the same kind of contract he is on, when his existing one expires, whilst remaining a bit-part player in Harden-Howard's Rockets. Jeremy is a nice guy but he's not naive about the financial implications of being a bench player on his future earnings and endorsements. I know haters will say he's junk but I believe he's proven he's a good starting PG, albeit with flaws that he has been improving on. I think the haters and LOFs will agree that they would love to see Lin leave before the trade deadline. Come on Morey, it's time for your traditional PG clearout.
So you're saying Morey traded away all of the Rockets best assets and gave Harden a 5-year max that's only reserved for 1 player per team... but believes Harden is on a level of Alphabet/MCW/Cousins(your definition of "foundation player) when he talked about Harden. And you say MY post was asinine?
Nobody is going to take Lin with that 15 mil payment. Rockets fans need to wait until his contract is done.
The one constant is that Morey is always a set step ahead of everyone else, especially the armchair GM's at clutchfans. IMO Morey knows his bet is to be patient, hence him saying Asik will be staying with the team. Letting everyone know he's not gonna jump on the first deal that comes along. Has he fielded offers? Of coarse. Will he continue? Of coarse. I'm sure he knows that in the current market as the situation stands he will be selling low. We also know that Morey doesn't let players(assets) walk without getting something in return. So if a good deals falls in his lap he takes it. If not he also has a couple of expirings next year to use for themselfs or another team. The longer he waits the better. If Lin plays well he lets the market set his value, reups and then if they feel the teams needs to go in a different direction, he still tradeable at a rate set by the market. But if he hasn't traded Lin by late next year and Lin doesn't play well, he'll get cents on the dollar. My bet is Lin continues to improve and becomes one of the better guards in league. One thing for sure is Morey always looks two steps ahead. My opinion doesn't matter, only Morey and Les's valuation, potenial of what Lin brings to the table matters.
Now you are just twisting my word with your twisted logic. Never said they are on the same level. Are all superstars/stars on the same level?? Since both Aldridge and DLee made it to the all star PF's last year, are they on the same level? They are all foundation players in which their respective teams can build their future upon. Didn't we already agree to disagree on this matter? Should I look up for you the definition of “foundation?” By your logic, Morey said that Harden was a foundation player. Since all foundation players are superstars, voila, therefor Harden must be a superstar! If you see no fallacy in your logic, then: Since monkeys and humans are primates. Humans must be = monkeys. If I say Meh is a good monkey, you should take that as a compliment because I just called you a good human being! And no, you don't have to thank me.
source? afaik he has only said he prefers to start, but is willing to sacrifice for the team. for a humble guy who know what its like just to make a roster, he doesnt seem like the entitled prima donna you guys are making him out to be. in fact who would be really surprised he took less money to stay in htown? dont forget he turned down plenty of endorsements after linsanity. money hungry he is not. imo as long as he gets to play in a meaningful way, he is happy. standing in the corner waiting for the ball isnt "meanignful" so that's why he looked disinterested the past few games. but give him the ball a few times, set some picks, and he comes alive.
This. I thought we saw already with Asik (who is likely a more valuable trade chip than Lin) that teams don't want to give much value in return because of the contracts they're on. Regarding Asik, Morey said to be prepared to keep him unto the expiration of his contract. That has to be doubly true for Lin. Unless we want to take back pennies on the dollar to dump him, he stays. I don't want pennies on the dollar for him because he's actually doing a pretty good job. He may not be worth his contract, but he's worth more playing for us than he is in a trade.
It's just too bad that McHale isn't still a GM somewhere. Otherwise, Morey could really sell high on Bev for a 2014 lotto pick.
Lin saying he prefers to start is pretty much as good as a complaint from the mild-mannered Lin. I'm not saying Lin is a prima donna, please read my comments more closely. I'm saying Lin is a smart guy and says the right things and keeps his head down and works his socks off, whether he feels wronged or not. I'm saying Lin will have to be realistic about his current situation and the bench role he finds himself in, and how it will impact his future prospects. Yes Lin is not a money first guy but any pro sports career can end in a blink of an eye, by injury or otherwise, and any player would want to maximise their earning potential in the short careers they have as a pro ball player. No matter how nice a guy a player is or a team player they are, every player eventually will have to look after their own interests, when all is said and done. I would be highly surprised if this hasn't crossed Lin's mind.
I love Jeremy but from a business standpoint it makes sense to sell anytime a buyer comes along. The Rockets got him for free anyway. Back up point guards are a dime a dozen and easy to replace. Plus the next time he's in a two minutes slump or makes a bad pass, he'll be worthless to many people on this board.
In short, his trade value will actually be at its highest a year from now. Nobody in their right mind will trade for Lin this year unless they are trying to dump an even worse contract like Gerald Wallace or Josh Smith. Not because he isn't a good player that could help a team, but because his contract is a nightmare with the 15 million dollar balloon payment coming up. Nobody wants to pay him a max salary. The Rockets can afford to since they have already reaped the benefits of the 5 and 5 over these first 2 years of the contract. Now the exact opposite may be the case at this same time next year when he is an 8.3 million dollar expiring contract that can help a team blow up their roster while getting a good player back in return that they can possibly sign to a much more reasonable deal in the offseason.
