For the record I think this thread is incredibly stupid. They've now played a few games with the roster as designed with Lin as the 6th man, and won just about all of them. I want him to stay and continue playing the way he has as of late, coming off the bench and being a factor.
I can get on board with this. Potential being the key word. The truth is we don't know what Lin would do in the same situation. Linsanity was entirely too small of a sample. I have no problem with folks debating the "what ifs", but the people that claim in absolutes that Lin would put up 23/8 every night and repeat it like it's a no-brainer are the ones who often get labeled. Sure, it's possible that he could be that guy. The real question is, is a team willing to take that chance in return for his contract?
Yes it has something to do with Dragic. The same Dragic who's putting up 20.1ppg/51%/39% this year and that's pretty good. Bottom line is players get better. Just because he can't do it now under current circumstances, doesn't mean he can't do it in the future in a different situation.
Please explain how this is Goran Dragic's 8th year in the league... and please don't tell me you counted 2010-11 three times because you looked at some website that showed you his Phoenix numbers, Houston numbers and total numbers of one season.
Its simple, really. Jeremy Lin is an unfinished product, we have yet to have a glimpse of his ceiling. Dragic, his what, 7th or 8th year in the league, IS pretty much reached his prime. Whether Lin can be as solid and consistent as Dragic now depends on if the Rockets have time and willing to develop Lin. From how the team is structured this year, cap space, media and rumors...etc, the answer is, NO. Had we not get Dwight and Harden, who knows, maybe Lin could be really good, maybe not. But at the current stage, Lin to the Rockets is an after thought, because now we got Harden and Dwight, we only have a small window to contend for Championship. Lin is either on board now as a bench player so that he could be aggressive and minimizes the risk of him being inconsistent, or we trade him to solidify other spots. The Rockets do not have time and resources to develop Lin (who has the potential to be good), because they need everything to be built around Dwight and Harden, and Lin needs to be put in a position to contend for Championship NOW, or in a position where him being traded will have the LEAST amount of impact to the chemistry of the current roster. Its just that simple.
This is the crux of the issue with his fans on this forum, though. Why is Lin any different from any other player in the NBA? NBA teams don't drop their goals in order to try to make a single player the best version of himself possible. There are plenty of players like Jeremy Lin, who would put up bigger numbers on a bad team. But what's the point in putting up big numbers on a bad team? The Rockets are contending, if Lin being the first option put us in the best opportunity to succeed, he would be the first option. The reality is that it's not the case, so he isn't. Smarter NBA minds than you or I have determined that.
I agree. But I don't think it is likely that Rockets will win a championship this yr or even next yr. What the past championship teams can tell us is that realistically, it will take a least two seasons for a group of core players (6-7 rotation level) players to gel together. It is mostly likely that we will have Lin and maybe even Asik on contract for this season and next. So why not having a little patience with them and letting them making a few mistakes and developing together? I guess I am more of a person worrying about what is in my baskets. If Morey can use his magic and trade Lin and/or Asik and finding us another star who can improve our roster, great! But for now, I will root for Lin's success and hope he can develop and improve as Lin's success (or another Rockets player's) is directly tied to the Rockets success at least this season or next. This is why as a Rockets fan, I hope Lin plays better and continues to improve :grin:
You conveniently forgot to include the fact that Dragic also has 1.5 more times than Lin. Dragic's Assist/TOV ratio is 2.06 meaning for every ball he turns over, he has 2 that leads to scoring. Lin on the other hand is at 1.73.
Just want to throw in... Per 48 Lin 4.2 Dragic 4.0 And as some people just love to talk about when comparing stats... "Dragic is the ball dominant first option, while Lin plays on a team with 9 point guards and barely gets to run the offense" So the guy with the ball way more turns it over less per minute.
I will take this as a compliment to Lin or a dig against Goran since we all know Lin is a "TO machine", "TO waiting to happen", and "King of TOs" etc.
This is why I always wish we could've gotten Harden at trade deadline or after 2012-2013 season. It would've settled a bunch of speculations, one way or the other.
? For a guy who isn't his teams primary ball handler Lins turnovers per minute are on the high side. Although I will say he has been doing much better recently in this area. He's really only had 1 bad TO game in the last month or so with 4 in 25 minutes.
