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If You Guys Wouldnt Take Back A Semi Healthy Tmac You're Crazy

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by astros148, Feb 23, 2009.

  1. Batman Jones

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    For those who are even considering this, whose minutes would you like to reduce in order to accommodate this soap opera? In the playoffs we'd like to have an 8-9 player rotation. Here are the first 9:

    Yao
    Scola
    Battier
    Artest
    Brooks
    Landry
    Barry
    Lowry
    Wafer

    Here are the next two, making 11:

    Hayes
    Mutombo

    Head would be 12.

    Why in god's name would you introduce this drama to replace Wafer with Tracy?

    The locker room issues are not overdramatized as suggested above. The fact that we hear about them at all in the papers means that they were unable to contain them and they are worse than we hear.

    It's nonsense to think that McGrady would fill a bench role better than our bench, especially after they have the benefit of playing together unhampered by the threat of our A-number one-superstar returning to save the day.

    He's not coming back this year, surgery or not. The people in charge are too smart for that. Get used to it.
     
  2. flashsky

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    To trade T-Money would be a rise idea. But which team want him, a player stay for not champ but money and contract.
     
  3. baller4life315

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    You seem to be pretty in tune with pulse of this team considering you didn't even know Wafer's not a 12th man or anything even close to that. I already suggested who's minutes get slashed to accommodate this move: Wafer. That's no indictment against Wafer either it just goes back to my original point of "Who would you rather have coming off the bench in a meaningful game: McGrady or Wafer?." I'm sorry but I'll still take McGrady over a guy like Wafer who's play is erratic and contributes nothing when his shot isn't falling.

    But I digress, you are right that this won't happen. I never suggested it was likely, I merely made the point if those aforementioned conditions were met it would be wise to consider the option.
     
  4. smoove shoez

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    Any update on this ESPN report that says TMac might be back in 2 weeks.
     
  5. t_mac1

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    just move on already. tracy and the organization are done with one another.
     
  6. astros148

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    it was a news flash on ESPN
     
  7. t_mac1

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    most fans still criticized him last yr despite playing on 2 injuries and 2 starters out. what makes you think they're going to give him a 2nd chance?

    let it go.
     
  8. Batman Jones

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    I'm not pretending to be an expert. But I do know that it's not as simple as swapping one player for another in the rotation which, for whatever reason, you don't seem to understand. It's not fantasy basketball. It's not about whose stats you'd prefer. There is such a thing as chemistry.

    And in the playoffs, the 9th slot is the 12th for all intents and purposes. You've got your 8 and then you've got your fill-ins as needed. 9-12 are those. Their minutes are dictated by need in the playoffs. Our first eight guys are our key guys. After that, its fillers.

    What I was saying is that you don't disrupt chemistry to upgrade your fillers, to upgrade the bottom of the bench. Our 2-3 is set. It's Artest-Battier.

    If you want to argue who's better between Wafer and McGrady, there's no argument. McGrady's better, even gimpy, as long as he's not on the wrong end of his obvious manic depression. When he is on the wrong end of it, Wafer's better. No question there either. If you want to argue it's better to bring McGrady off the bench for 10 minutes instead of Wafer, go for it. I'm betting management disagrees. Or at least I'm hoping they do.
     
  9. astros148

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    thank god they dont have a choice. reality is, les loves tmac as a player and still has faith in him, DM will bring him back to show other teams hes still a decent player, tmac will get 25min or so if hes healthy, and then we trade him in the off season.


    booooom!
     
  10. Batman Jones

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    Don't stop believing, hold on to that feeling.
     
  11. t_mac1

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    i don't know what's going to happen really. until it happens, i don't really know. if tmac comes back, we'll see. if he doesn't, this team still has the talent to compete.

    we were not going to win a championship this year or the next few years anyways. i hope morey has a plan for us.

    and yes, tracy will be traded in the offseason.
     
  12. jacuzzi

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    Then Yao is out of here
     
  13. t_mac1

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    yao can be part of a plan. he's a very good player. i just feel we have to truly add a top flight superstar if we're going to do big things.

    we haven't had one since tracy 04-05 season. the player that actually puts fear into the opponents.

    i trust morey though.
     
  14. astros148

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    you know and i know, and the whole board knows, without a healthy tmac, this team can not beat the Lakers, Spurs, Celetics, Cavs, Magic, or MAYBE a healthy jazz team in 7 games.


    Reality
     
  15. astros148

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    we arent getting bosh, lebron or wade.

    so who is this "superstar"

    Joe johnson or someone could maybe come here, but hes not really a top flight superstar
     
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    Tmac is done. Even if he's 100 percent physicall, his mental game is always 0. He should play for the Harlem.
     
  17. jacuzzi

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    I would like to change your words into "the player that actually put fear into the opponets"
    What do you think?
     
  18. Rockets Jones

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    Tracy has received more than enough 2nd chances so no, I would not want him back period. He can say all the right things, it wouldn't matter. He blew it and also he would not help the team, he would only slow the team down and hold them back from playof success.
     
  19. astros148

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    define your definition of "playoff success"

    a 2nd round exit?
     
  20. wireonfire

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    But the FACT is the me-my-mine egocentric T-Lack won't accept to play as a role player. He thought he's still a superstar, and in fact, he is a ball-stopper.
     

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