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If You Guys Wouldnt Take Back A Semi Healthy Tmac You're Crazy

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by astros148, Feb 23, 2009.

  1. JayRow

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    Is this the same guy who was part of the 22-game winning streak that has been solely credited to team chemistry? Is it POSSIBLE to have a good locker room in Houston with T-Mac? The only main piece that is different different is Artest...
     
  2. Tom Bombadillo

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    Tracy Mcgrady will hopefully not disgrace and tarnish the Rockets legacy further by suiting up.


    His expiring contract is the only thing that keeps Morey from cutting his soft,"drama queen" ass....
     
  3. Batman Jones

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    "Happy?" These guys aren't playing happy, they're playing pissed. And I love it. They're playing with a chip on their shoulders, but the chip is on THEIR shoulders, not on the shoulders of one moody star. That's what I want: a bunch of guys on a mission together. A team. With a common goal of winning at all costs. Not a washed up superstar who's more concerned about how every step he takes is reviewed in the press and the history books and who is so sensitive about it that it ruins his game and that of all who are relying on him.

    I am being "real, man." I've been watching this game for a little over 30 years now. That doesn't make me an expert in anything but which kind of game I like. I like the game where all our guys are on the same page. I think it's a more entertaining game and I think it makes for a more successful team, especially in a motion offense.

    The only thing that's confusing me in this thread is how it has more than one star.
     
  4. bratna8

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    I'd rather get swept in the 1st round but go down playing hard every night and playing team ball than have T-Mac back in the lineup.
     
  5. matac3

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    Oh stop the bs with "cancer". If the Rockets organization really thought that Tracy was that bad, then they would tell tracy to go get the Micro surgery.

    Why else do you think the rockets are the only ones who have yet to say he is out for the season... because they want him back to play asap.

    Once again i dont agree with it ,but thats how it is
     
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    I've enjoyed reading this thread so far. I'm going to surprise even myself here and go against the grain: I would welcome him back to the team provided he accepted a clearly reduced role. By 'reduced role' I mean off the bench, with non-guaranteed minutes and with the idea stamped in his mind that a Rick Adelman motion offense surprisingly does require motion. That his days of ISO'ing, dominating the ball, refusing to trust teammates and slacking on the defensive end are over. His minutes (again, off of the bench) would be contingent upon both how he's feeling/looking physically and how he's playing. If he plays well his minutes get increased and vice versa if he's playing like crap. He would have to accept that he could play 30 minutes one night and 10 minutes the next. The idea that he could get yanked at any given point. I honestly feel you can't go wrong if he's okay with all this. Give him that option and if he declines you move about like this never happened.

    What really it all boils down to is if you're asking me who I would rather have coming off the bench in a meaningful game between Tracy McGrady and Von Wafer, you just simply won't be able to convince me we're better off with Wafer. I like Wafer too -- just saying we might hit a point down the road where we're missing 'something'. Wafer is erratic and doesn't really provide much when his shot isn't falling. T-Mac still has the ability to create shots for others, draw double teams and impact the game in ways others can't. Again, if he tries and fails he gets yanked. Even with an ego as big as his he should understand why he would be kept on a short leash.
     
  7. UTAllTheWay

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    Or because they are paying him 20$ million to play basketball.
     
  8. matac3

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    If thats the truth then you love to lose. I want the rockets to win at any cost. If he plays and plays right and wins, then im good with that.
     
  9. daRox

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    This team went deep in the playoffs with T-Mac? Oh I forgot, no team ever went deep in the playoffs with T-Mac.

    Don't go deep in the playoffs? So be it! At least this team is fun to watch
     
  10. BornRedIn87

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    Basically its 2 guys sitting at home in their TMAC PJ's (Astros and Matac) that are stirring up everyone else because they cant get an erection anymore because they cant find Tmac anywhere on TV and their Toronto/Orlando Highlight DVD just doesnt do the trick anymore. Therefore they are bringing up conspiracy theories that their beloved boytoy will once again play for our Rockets, hence getting him back on TV a few nights a week

    This is a dumb thread. The whole thing was based on a BSPN ticker report that isnt even running anymore.
     
  11. JayRow

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    If he gets healthy, we might have a new nickname..

    Tracy Mc-DNPCD-Rady
     
  12. Batman Jones

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    I disagree. I don't think you realize how badly McGrady's behavior burned the team leading up to the deadline. We can just agree to disagree on that.

    But McGrady is not in this team's plans for the future. His only value to us now is as an expiring contract. Playing doesn't help the team and it doesn't help his trade value. I predict he will never wear the uniform again, whether he wants to or not.

    Also, I seriously laugh out loud at the people suggesting he would come back in a reduced role. That is nowhere in his nature. He might say he wanted to do that and he might even really want to but he wouldn't have any idea how.

    And we are not short on our 2-3 rotation. We have a healthy Artest-Battier-Wafer combo. That's more than enough for a solid 9 man rotation. We don't need the confusion that comes from installing our former #1 option as our new #12. And neither does he.

    Anyone who doesn't get that: Have you not noticed that this team has been sick all year? And that it's in the process of healing? Why compromise that to add to a full bench?
     
  13. matac3

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    Wooh, slow down old man. Now i said this and will say it again, i do not agree with Tracy but i was making the point that if tracy wanted to play, the rockets are going to let him play. No i will admit, im a fan of tracy but i dont agree with the situation. I am speaking about playoffs. I want the team to win. I agreed with Astro in terms of if the rockets and tracy agreed to letting tracy be a role player, i would like that. I never said he was a super star or anything. Im saying it would make the team better if he was a role player off the bench.
     
  14. ibm

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    is it possible? ask yourself and use your common sense.

    and no, artest hasn't been a saint, but he's not the "only main piece tat is different" from last year. you have to add in what has happened in bwtween now and then, or what has been stirred up by mcgrady in b/w.
     
  15. ibm

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    read a bit carefully. i said "tumor", not cancer.

    though admittedly, i almost did. :cool:

    and for you statement there, it is still an opinion as opposed to a fact.
     
  16. Tom Bombadillo

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    If different means getting out of the first round, I like different....
     
  17. BornRedIn87

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    Ok i will take you off the list, lol, but their are plenty of people in this Thread that would have him be back on the court right now and this team fail than for him to stay off and this team succeed.

    Astros is still on the list, Tmac PJ's and the original Adidas Tmac on his feet as we speak....
     
  18. <3myrockets

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    that's a terrible idea at this point. you saw the chemistry when he's not at his full capabilities...quite disastrous. let him have his surgery, rehab and get strong enough for next year whether on this team or not. we can't deter our young guys while waiting on him. i'd rather see the team come together and lose the first round then well we know the second option
     
  19. matac3

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    Agreed. Bottom line is that he does have a shot still. I would use him somewhat in a small role. If he didnt like it then tell him to leave. Im pissed like the rest of us but hey if he wants to play then he needs to work his way up like Von did. But in the playoffs, he could be an asset at some point. But i doubt he will be back this year. I think he will hold off the surgery and do rehab for the rest of the season and come back next year.
     
  20. badgerfan

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    What are the chances of that happening? The guy's got zero maturity. If he doesn't start he'll pout and pull a Toronto all over again.

    Tracy's not willing to take a reduced role. The Rockets would have to be crazy to start him until he's proven himself. It's over.
     

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